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India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by redpillor »

actuator wrote: post #5

Sadly as much as I hate seeing essential communication links cut, though I don't have any data I am assuming a lot of people are going to buy in the public safety angle. It is not like the Indian state hasn't used that line of reasoning before for even bans lasting more than a year. Reading through the linked article on the violence related to the same protests that happened few days back reminded me of some tweets I…

they are going crazy. farmers run over two innocent woman

tryied to run over a people https://twitter.com/MrsGandhi/status/1332679401738145792

https://twitter.com/Iyervval/status/1353981108451336193

attacking with sword https://twitter.com/Iyervval/status/1354299202285625349

throwing off the wall https://twitter.com/Iyervval/status/1354091326971633669

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by alex_smart »

quantgenius wrote: post #57
codesternews wrote: post #46

Sadly the Indian govt passed the laws without taking opposition and farmers in confidence. They passed the law very bluntly. Thats from where all this started. It's very simple thing to solve but current govt want to make it political. They are basically saying MSP(Minimum selling price) is not affected. But farmers protesting why you include this in bill. But because of govt ego millions of farmers are protesting fo…

The bill was public. It was debated for a while, and anyone could have read it during that period if they chose to. There was none of the here is a 5000 page bill and you must pass it in 2 hours or the economy goes under like happens in the US Congress. They not only took the farmers into confidence, they took the opinions of the farmers into consideration and amended the bill. Each individual substantive line item b…

To add to this, most of the farmer organizations protesting these reforms had themselves been asking for them for years.

Just one example: https://twitter.com/BKU_KisanUnion/status/110167401066691379...

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by miohtama »

dragonsh wrote: post #58
actuator wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I was talking about the protestors attacking cops of which there are a lot of videos on social media. The video I linked above shows them jumping from a fort to save themselves.

This has been shown again and again by current administration and ruling party in India that power and ideology of pure Hindu state is more important than lives and livelihood. On a grand display in 2002 incident in a province in India [1], please read the whole NYT article, before commenting on it. Later on at display in Kashmir. Subsequently during national register and citizenship act protests where religious riot…

India is objectively moving towards authoritarian dictatorship on many metrics:

https://www.economist.com/briefing/2020/11/28/narendra-modi-...

(And quickly)

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by estaseuropano »

actuator wrote: post #5

Sadly as much as I hate seeing essential communication links cut, though I don't have any data I am assuming a lot of people are going to buy in the public safety angle. It is not like the Indian state hasn't used that line of reasoning before for even bans lasting more than a year. Reading through the linked article on the violence related to the same protests that happened few days back reminded me of some tweets I…

Even if this were actually true at larger scale (than at most a few isolated cases played up), the comparison of the righteous anger of starving farmers with that of propaganda-fed Americans is not really helpful.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by LB232323 »

asfasfaasfas wrote: post #20
bsan3 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, complete propaganda by the Indian govt. I have family there so I can confirm. The Indian media is completely sold out to the govt and will only present highly selected and curated pictures. Social media is where they can't control the narrative. The Indian govt unleash sate sanctioned mobs on these protestors, desperate resort to break up the protest. Now they had to ensure that the truth stays under wraps. Hen…

Complete propaganda here. The oligarchs and nationalists are pushing down the minorities (Sikhs, and Muslims and poor). A t the end of the day those funding Jio and other Oligarchs (Hi Mark, Hi Bond), will end up catching blame with a black swan event goes down. Follow the money, VCs and Facebook fund up these same oligarchs that press and kill hundreds of millions.

This forum is a product of VCs and big tech. A huge portion of Silicon Valley wealth comes from enslaving and subjugating Asia.

This audience is probably the people who need to hear it most, but also the audience that it would upset the most.

When did hacker culture evolve from loving technology and rebelling against the establishment into placing profits above human lives? Is a nice tech salary all it takes to purchase one's humanity? What about the promise of VC billions?

The profit motive subjugates the poor, perpetuates genocide, and upholds slavery. Technology is not some humanist savior, it has been twisted to exploit the many and serve the few. Maybe one day our advanced technologies will work to serve and uplift the people rather than suppress them.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by psingh88 »

Guys, you need to understand what media is showing in india is not true, as it is controlled by Govt and corporates. Media publish picture guy raising sword, but not explaining why. Media didn’t publish pictures about events that lead to. Day before govt supporters warned that they will tomorrow unless they vacate the protest site. Next day even police barricade in the view of warning , still they let govt supporters in and local senator arranged trucks dump stone piles close by. Govt rioters move in start stone pelting and police watching , infact escorting them eventually inside the protest site and rioters strat damage. Meanwhile police also fire tear gas at protest site even protesters weren’t attacking back as they know govt want to provoke them. Eventually one of guy picked up sword to scare the roiters to save women and others. That’s it, 6-8 police and government supporters beat him with batten mercilessly, strip him and took him. I can add all pictures if this platform allows.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by psingh88 »

Continuing to below comment, media is doing govt propaganda to scare people as well so that they don’t come Delhi. People are relying on social media as news source, and mobile communication. That’s why govt suspended these services in nearby places. gGovt has been trying to uproot the protest, even Supereme court said protest is people’s right.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by quantgenius »

dragonsh wrote: post #58
actuator wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I was talking about the protestors attacking cops of which there are a lot of videos on social media. The video I linked above shows them jumping from a fort to save themselves.

This has been shown again and again by current administration and ruling party in India that power and ideology of pure Hindu state is more important than lives and livelihood. On a grand display in 2002 incident in a province in India [1], please read the whole NYT article, before commenting on it. Later on at display in Kashmir. Subsequently during national register and citizenship act protests where religious riot…

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Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by psingh88 »

Fact: 1. Ruling party in India is affiliated to right wing called RSS. RSS has planted their cadre at public services decision making posts such as Police head etc, even Governors ( who can override a province’s elected govt), and President of India. 3. It is clearly visible protest was peaceful for 2 months, and now Govt is trying incite violence and eventually excuse to uproot it by force. 3. Democracy is now questioned as judiciary as Election commission is also under govt influence.
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