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Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Newsflash: there is a chat system so secure, Google doesn't want you to know it exists.

I don't think that can be the full rationale behind whatever got it removed, if that were the case, they'd absolutely have removed Signal quite some time ago.

I was attempting to imitate one of these "clickbait headlines".

It seems this always requires the /sarcasm tag. =)

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Signal Server has not seen updates for over 9 months. Moxie openly states that is not part of Signal's core values to support federation in the network. IOW, even though they say they don't want to control your conversation, they do want you in their hands.

But. The point is still that you can run your own non-federated signal server or connect your own client to their federated network.

An outdated version of the server whose development team has no incentive whatsoever of supporting for your use case.

Can you run it? Sure. Should you?

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Reddit is by far the hardest to quit tho. I get constantly dragged into the shitshow, but can't really get off, because there is useful information there, I can't find anywhere else. In a similar way, I can't quit smartphones for encrypted messaging and navigation (not even Google Maps, but OSMand).

I don't lump Reddit into the same bucket as FB/Twitter. It's perfectly possible to have a sane, even pleasant experience there if you stay out of the default subs and the obvious dumpster fires. And I think stable-but-pseudonymous identity is turning out to have been the right call.

No doubt, I absolutely agree.

However, I was just saying I cannot stay out of those dumpster fires. Sooner or later, I think to myself "Well, I wonder what's up in the world otherwise. Let's check out /r/all for a moment."... And there we go.

It's not like other people are idiots and I am in control over addiction, impulse, outrage and dopamine. I have spend waaaay too much time on reddit. I hate it, for what it is. Yet, I can't manage to not use it for a prolonged time. Too many niche forums I depend on, and I simply can't tolerate linear, unranked forums anymore.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Technical distinctions are irrelevant to someone at headquarters worried about having a regulatory probe inserted in their backside.

But this one is important, no? This is like banning Firefox because it can connect to illegal content.

Yea, it's a lot like that. The idea of banning browsers that don't actively police what users are able to access (maybe via something like a global blacklist) is no longer crazy.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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post #753

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Free software. Guaranteeing backdoors is a terrible strategy that should not even be considered.

I believe it was Franklin who said "The man who sacrifices liberty for security will get neither" (paraphrasing) ... however, it's not a common sentiment among law-enforcement officials who prefer quiet over creativity. You are right that it ought not be considered by sane citizens in a free country, but what do you tell the appointed officials that try so desperately to make it so?

Nothing. If they try to pressure it's inclusion we remove it, if they sneak it in we'll find it. That's the beauty of free software.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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This is basically the last straw for me. The past week has made it perfectly clear that Big Tech will close the circle and protect their own. Anything that appears to be censorship resistant, that allows the little guy to get ahead and compete, or that allows individuals to have greater levels of privacy and freedom, will be shut down and de-platformed. As was predicted in 1948, "hate speech" has just become a smoke…

>This is basically the last straw for me.

So are you going to switch to a GNU/Linux phone, Librem 5 or Pinephone?

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Why, when an app is "suspended", Play Store shows 404 as if it never existed? Can't Google display the app page with some status banner and a reason for suspension while disabling install button, or allow installing last known "approved" version?

> Why, when an app is "suspended", Play Store shows 404 as if it never existed?

It's the ever more popular historical revisionism movement.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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> What they were talking about is giving up on smartphones and social media altogether That's incredibly encouraging to hear. It seems to be a common feature of "I quit Facebook/Twitter/whatever" accounts that once you break the immediate addiction there's no real urge to go back, so if this does happen it should have a decent chance of sticking. (And as a mobile refusenik I sometimes feel like the last holdout left,…

(LOL), you're not alone.

There's literally twos of us!
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