University of Leicester firing all pure math faculty

Post by hedberg10 » Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 10:24 AM UTC

inglor_cz wrote: post #12

I wonder if the end game of higher education looks like purely administrative bodies with enormous tuition that just provide the students with leisure, varsity sports and regular events on the currently hot social justice topics. I studied pure math in the Czech Rep. between 1996 and 2003. The administrative staff was about 10 per cent of the entire body of employees. Reading that administrators actually outnumber te…

Post by throwaways885 » Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 10:27 AM UTC

foldr wrote: post #20

inglor_cz wrote: post #17

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No, but this is the kind of stuff that can keep students busy and not asking whether they get their money's worth. A very efficient distraction.

Students wanting to get their money’s worth is exactly the root cause of this. Trust me, British Universities are bending over backwards to give students what they want. If you’ve been anywhere near a British University you’d know how ridiculous it is to suggest that the staff are somehow secretly organizing BLM protests (??) as part of a plan to stop students noticing how much money they’re spending (??)

Post by inglor_cz » Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 10:30 AM UTC

foldr wrote: post #20

inglor_cz wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but this is the kind of stuff that can keep students busy and not asking whether they get their money's worth. A very efficient distraction.

Students wanting to get their money’s worth is exactly the root cause of this. Trust me, British Universities are bending over backwards to give students what they want. If you’ve been anywhere near a British University you’d know how ridiculous it is to suggest that the staff are somehow secretly organizing BLM protests (??) as part of a plan to stop students noticing how much money they’re spending (??)

Post by pmiller2 » Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 10:32 AM UTC

morelisp wrote: post #21

rambojazz wrote: post #6

A lot of universities do not have a pure math faculty. It can be good or bad, it depends on the goals of the university and which faculties it wants to specialize on.

> A lot of universities do not have a pure math faculty. If true this shocks me. Pure math makes up two of the seven liberal arts. The pure math department at my (US state) university had significantly higher status than the applied one, and this seemed to hold true for the other (also mostly state) universities my friends went to as well. Community colleges and technical schools? Sure. Colleges? OK I guess, if they…

Post by throwaways885 » Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 10:34 AM UTC

LatteLazy wrote: post #27

throwaways885 wrote: post #23

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"Limited"? UK tuition used to be much, much cheaper: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuition_fees_in_the_United_Kin...

Yeah, it used to be that the government paid that and students went for free or got a grant. Starting back in 2002 they cut the amount the government paid and increased what students paid. So the unis didn't get any more money, the government just saved cash. Total BS imho, but don't get me started...