Doing this just a week before FOSDEM [1], a very large conference that will run online using Matrix, is scandalous. https://fosdem.org/2021/
Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#352One of the reasons I really like Element is the fact that it runs completely in the browser, no need to install a native app - which, lets be realistic, is really only a viable option (for the average consumer) if you submit to the proprietary App Store or Play Store. Sadly, Element Web is not yet responsive, but I hope that changes soon so that it can be finally free from the constraints of the constraints of propri…
It's still early days, but https://hydrogen.element.io works well on mobile
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I am not willing to root Android. Why is that? I'm not being snarky, I just don't understand why. The difference between a rooted and non-rooted android is like the being in the wheel group or sudoers file on unix/linux and not being in them. Personally, I like to have full control of my own property. What reason do you have for not wanting that?
In theory it's nice, in practice are there phones that you can root without leaving the bootloader in a vulnerable state? And it looks like the future is a situation where it's impossible to prevent software from detecting unlocks and refusing to run.
>In theory it's nice, in practice are there phones that you can root without leaving the bootloader in a vulnerable state?
I've always just unlocked the bootloader, then installed TWRP[0] (or similar) and then re-locked the bootloader.
Once a reasonable recovery partition is in place, you don't need keep the bootloader unlocked.
[0] https://twrp.me/
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#354So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…
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Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
should have built your own phone with your own store - hn hivemind
Can we just please pass some legislation to break Google and Apple's app installation monopoly already? Sure, they built the phones, doesn't mean we can't demand more rights than they decide it's profitable to give us (or put another way, just because the king's ancestors founded the country doesn't mean we shouldn't demand freedom and democracy).
>Can we just please pass some legislation to break Google and Apple's app installation monopoly already?
Agreed, but then Apple/Google and the fans of their walled gardens will argue that without this heavy censorship, grandma will install some malware on her phone that will empty her bank account or that their kids will install some malware that will spy on them (other than the social media apps that already do that).
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there a standard that could verify an apk against a certificate? ... or an I just describing building an alternative play store?
This is a (mostly) solved problem in linux. Your package manager has a central repo, but also can have 3rd party repos added. You'd add the matrix repo and it would automatically update it with everything else. It means everything still gets updated and verified against the keyring.
Fdroid supports 3rd party repos.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#357Doing this just a week before FOSDEM [1], a very large conference that will run online using Matrix, is scandalous. https://fosdem.org/2021/
This is far from ideal, but someone attending FOSDEM is surely able to download an .apk from official site of Element and install it?
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#358Use F-Droid - An app repository ("store") for Free Software apps:
Naturally, it has the Element app.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#359So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…
Deplatforming is the story of the year.
If we're not careful, they'll come for our individual rights next. Be it companies or the government.
We need to remain vigilant and develop distributed platforms. We also need to demand that the government takes control away from corporate interests. This shouldn't happen.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google ditched that app too. If you move from iPhone, where would you go?
I’m seriously considering ditching my iPhones for any Nokia dumb phone. But what we really need is a mobile OS that is really free with no marketing BS, ideally BSD derived.
Like this one? https://pureos.net/
Running on a phone: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/