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how is this handled for SIP softphones that can run persistently in the background, in a direct SIP or SIP-over-TLS connection to a server? for instance: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.linphone&h... that's just a random example I thought of since I use it, but I can also think of a lot of other Android apps that I'm fairly sure aren't using any client-server communications mediated through google f…
I'm not sure how Linphone is doing it but all the apps I used that required to run in the background were required to show a notification at all time. This is a terrible UX, my notification center is useless because I always have those apps in there (KDEConnect and Syncthing for example)
Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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Newsflash: there is a chat system so secure, Google doesn't want you to know it exists.
I don't think that can be the full rationale behind whatever got it removed, if that were the case, they'd absolutely have removed Signal quite some time ago.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#304So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…
You, like Parler, have been targeted by the powers that be. You may have nothing else in common other than that but, you're in the same boat it seems.
However, when looking on a bigger picture of the recent takedowns and trying to make sense of it, it does indeed seem to be connected. The only conclusion that seems rational to me is as follows:
Everyone tries to push their burden of moderation on people below them, because no one can actually keep up with it. And if the moderation is not enforced, they risk being taken down by someone above them. That would explain why everyone is so trigger happy when it comes to censorship. When the WallStreetBets people were taken down by Facebook and Discord, they didn't ban the individuals who were actually violating the policy, but the entire community.
It's also worth to note, that the takedowns can be enforced selectively, as we see here - Google obviously won't take down their own browser or email client, that also allows to access abusive content - assuming that's what Element was taken down for. It's probably selectively enforced on the social media too, but I'm out of the loop on what actually goes on there, so to be fair, I cannot prove it.
If this is actually what is happening, the only solution as far as I see it, is to extend the First Amendment to social media. Another solution could be to convince the people and the media to stop pressuring companies into deplatforming other people, but that's in my opinion definitely not going to happen. So it's either applying the protections of 1A to the internet or the censorship will get worse and worse.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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Agreed! This is just the free market in action. This is a good thing.
> This is just the free market in action. It's not free marked at all. Free marked is about having a competition between companies where the user decides who wins by buying the best products. The concept of a free marked was invented before there had been massive marked limiting factors like "lock down" of digital devices and similar. Somehow a lot of people still take all the original arguments why a free marked is…
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I don't think that can be the full rationale behind whatever got it removed, if that were the case, they'd absolutely have removed Signal quite some time ago.
the difference is Signal is NOT federated, and matrix is. Which make it more like email, harder to censor.
The default matrix.org servers are federated.
In terms of what the default Element install presents to the user upon launch in its GUI, I think it does offer the 'official' matrix.org servers as a place to create an account and sign in, start browsing 'rooms'.
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We really can't. Smartphones are practically a mandatory part of modern life. My previous job required me to have one for tons of work-related authentication/software. There is no choice outside Google/Apple when it comes to mobile devices. None which are fully compatible with a normal person's way of life, or which provides access to the same apps. It may be technically possible to avoid them, but 'technically possi…
The alternative is the pinephone. It's coming along and has gotten to the point where it's stable and fast. Most distros will probably have MMS support at some point this year. That doesn't help if everyone you want to interact with refuses to talk to you if you don't have an iPhone because doing that has become fashionable.
People do this?? Wow, that is unbelievably snobby.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#309So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…
should have built your own phone with your own store - hn hivemind
Sure, they built the phones, doesn't mean we can't demand more rights than they decide it's profitable to give us (or put another way, just because the king's ancestors founded the country doesn't mean we shouldn't demand freedom and democracy).
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> You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. So I should probably lower the quality of my life to make a statement that will have no impact on them at all? >You can't change how they operate. Sure you can, by petitioning your government to draft laws and so on.
> So I should probably lower the quality of my life to make a statement that will have no impact on them at all? God forbid we "lower the quality of our lives" for such lowly things as principles! > Sure you can, by petitioning your government to draft laws and so on. Else what, you'll vote for another party? Both parties (in the US) take money from Big Tech, and they vote the same shit anyway. That will "show them"…