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Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Post by throwawayboise »

marcinzm wrote: post #28
throwawayboise wrote: post #24

Opt out. No Google. No Facebook. No Twitter. No Amazon. You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. You can't change how they operate. But you can change how you operate.

> You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. So I should probably lower the quality of my life to make a statement that will have no impact on them at all? >You can't change how they operate. Sure you can, by petitioning your government to draft laws and so on.

I don't think it lowers quality of life. YMMV of course.

Petition the government if you like. It doesn't matter. You don't have millions to donate to the next campaign or their personal enrichment. You're not who they care about.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Post by sova »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #32
shripadk wrote: post #21

I got banned here for saying this but I'll continue to say it nevertheless. We are already in the Censorship Era. This is an Orwellian Nightmare. The quicker this is brought under control the better. The last thing we need is Corporate Overlords controlling what we say or do online. This includes Hacker News as well.

In dictatorships at least there is a clear authority with clear rules. Here we have multiple aithorities makiblng it up as they go

Judges get appointed, not elected; in a similar way, tech companies get appointed to these bizarre overseer positions, and it seems that they do not mind playing judge, jury, and exe.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Post by throwawayboise »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #38
throwawayboise wrote: post #24

Opt out. No Google. No Facebook. No Twitter. No Amazon. You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. You can't change how they operate. But you can change how you operate.

'You can't change how they operate' We used yo have laws.. And opting out is literslly impossible, there are people and authorities i -have-to- communicate with, and its impossible outside those platforms

It's not impossible. You just have to make choices.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Post by illustriousbear »

marcinzm wrote: post #28
throwawayboise wrote: post #24

Opt out. No Google. No Facebook. No Twitter. No Amazon. You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. You can't change how they operate. But you can change how you operate.

> You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. So I should probably lower the quality of my life to make a statement that will have no impact on them at all? >You can't change how they operate. Sure you can, by petitioning your government to draft laws and so on.

It's sad that your quality of life depends on Google or Facebook services.

I quit Facebook along with most Google services, I feel much happier and more well adjusted than when I was using them. Meeting with family and friends is also much more interesting because I don't have a constant stream detailing their life.

Good luck petitioning the government to act on it... this goes double for US businesses and people who live outside the US.

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Post by Grimm1 »

dvt wrote: post #15

It's becoming more and more clear that there's a problem with these corporately-controlled "free markets" that are neither free nor are they markets. It's time for Congress to do more than just write strongly-worded letters to large tech conglomerates hoping that these kinds of anti-consumer practices stop. It's funny (or sad) that the meme du jour is "build your own app store, bro." We need: (1) transparency and (2)…

It's a mistake to enshrine these companies though. Break out their app store and android division and make them a utility, but don't make google a permanent part of our lives by making them a necessity. I don't want to live in a world where these centralized platforms have a government mandate.

What I want is true competition and laws that make that happen.

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Post by illustriousbear »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #38
throwawayboise wrote: post #24

Opt out. No Google. No Facebook. No Twitter. No Amazon. You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. You can't change how they operate. But you can change how you operate.

'You can't change how they operate' We used yo have laws.. And opting out is literslly impossible, there are people and authorities i -have-to- communicate with, and its impossible outside those platforms

What people and authorities?

I stopped using these services and told people to contact me via sms or signal. No problems so far.

The people who won't make that extra step aren't worth my time because clearly I'm not worth their time.

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