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Re: StrictMark: Markdown, Refactored

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The author is here, AMA.

How fundamental is the requirement that all the "block stuff" be exactly four characters wide? The parts that were the strangest for me are that link references can only contain a single unicode character and that block quotes are ">" plus three spaces, instead of ">" plus one space.

It's odd for a second, then seemed fine to me. Think if hexadecimal just kept going…

Re: StrictMark: Markdown, Refactored

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

lists are one of markdown's weak points though with numbered lists completely ignoring the numbers

Thats optimized for never having to renumber yoir lists as you edit your document. I would hate to have to change 30 numbers because i want to move an item from last to first.

Optimizing for readers definitely excludes lists like:

    2. 
    3. 
    5. 
    6. 
    1.

Re: StrictMark: Markdown, Refactored

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Reference links as opposed to inline links is a huge plus, but like most others here I'm puzzled at the single-char restriction. I tend to restructure documents often, writing things as they come into my head and moving pieces around to better convey my message. With named references, I can simply alphabetize them at the bottom and forget about them while I move sections around. With single-char identifiers though, I…

Name each link using an arbitrary emoji?

(I'm not even sure I'm joking)

Re: StrictMark: Markdown, Refactored

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> Yes, HTML is a widely supported standard, but it is hopelessly elephantine. Let's think, who can afford to develop/support a proper HTML engine? That is roughly one-and-a-half companies in the world. Hence the interest in a minimalistic hypertext markup language.

There are dozens of proper HTML engines. Implementing a proper DOM and CSS is the hard part, which is why we have few full-featured browsers.

Re: StrictMark: Markdown, Refactored

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Markdown was engineered to be flexible _on purpose_ because it was designed for writers and readers, not programmers. Writers are less likely to care about what symbol means "bulleted list item", as long as anything that makes sense for it, just works. It's a mistake to think of Markdown as a programming language, or a "formal grammar". That being said, if it works for you go for it...

If you want to render Markdown in a way other than plain text, you need formal rules of parsing it. No matter how informal you want Markdown to be, if you want e.g. a nicely rendered Readme on Githiub, you have to follow the formal rules.

Re: StrictMark: Markdown, Refactored

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I appreciate all opinions as equally useless and this is just an opinionated less-usefull markdown.....I don't see the point at all....

markdown is meant for rendering .....

it should be as flexible as possible to write content....not restricted. I get the pain points of the devs ... never was the point of markdown. I feel like this engineers a new problem.... by removing an old solution

Re: StrictMark: Markdown, Refactored

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Markdown was engineered to be flexible _on purpose_ because it was designed for writers and readers, not programmers. Writers are less likely to care about what symbol means "bulleted list item", as long as anything that makes sense for it, just works. It's a mistake to think of Markdown as a programming language, or a "formal grammar". That being said, if it works for you go for it...

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Re: StrictMark: Markdown, Refactored

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Markdown was engineered to be flexible _on purpose_ because it was designed for writers and readers, not programmers. Writers are less likely to care about what symbol means "bulleted list item", as long as anything that makes sense for it, just works. It's a mistake to think of Markdown as a programming language, or a "formal grammar". That being said, if it works for you go for it...

lists are one of markdown's weak points though with numbered lists completely ignoring the numbers

This is the same as HTML's though...

Re: StrictMark: Markdown, Refactored

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It's a good effort, but I'm afraid it isn't a good fit for me, three things stand out: 1) the use of # rather than underline for headings. That why I feel you loose the beauty of the source form - headers disappear visually without a smart editor - if you demand a smart/wysiwyg editor anyway... Might just use a sgml/xml/html subset. 2) one symbol references. This strikes me as overly limiting - why not alphanumeric s…

I always felt that the number of #s should increase with higher-level rather than with lower-level headings, for multiple reasons: - More #s mean a larger visual footprint, which would be more appropriate for higher-level headings (cf. larger font size in rich-text rendering, and of course the = and - underlines). This is what bothers me the most. - I tend to write documents bottom-up, starting with lowest-level head…

I like this idea, but that means you need to be able to decide what the "lowest" level is at the beginning (i.e. I seldom use anything below .)
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