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Samsung’s lawyers demand to see the iPhone 5 and iPad 3

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Re: Samsung’s lawyers demand to see the iPhone 5 and iPad 3

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My brother's first reaction when he saw my galaxy S was 'Wow, they don't even pretend they don't copy Apple anymore.' The phone has an uncanny similar look to the iPhone 3G. I think Apple had a legitimate case and don't understand all the Samsung love here. Apple wanting to see samsung's upcoming model to see if they are again copying, so they can get a jump on the lawsuit? I say 'fair'. Samsung copied the shit out o…

Are external phone designs protected by patents or copyrights?

Re: Samsung’s lawyers demand to see the iPhone 5 and iPad 3

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post #11

My brother's first reaction when he saw my galaxy S was 'Wow, they don't even pretend they don't copy Apple anymore.' The phone has an uncanny similar look to the iPhone 3G. I think Apple had a legitimate case and don't understand all the Samsung love here. Apple wanting to see samsung's upcoming model to see if they are again copying, so they can get a jump on the lawsuit? I say 'fair'. Samsung copied the shit out o…

Are external phone designs protected by patents or copyrights?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patent

Re: Samsung’s lawyers demand to see the iPhone 5 and iPad 3

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read the article. The only items that Apple is asking for is pre-production versions of previously announced products that have pre-production versions that have already been distributed to journalists, etc. Big difference to asking for unannounced and unreleased products. Samsung's lawyers have some mighty big balls to make that kind of a gamble. Frankly, I think it has less than no chance of the Judge granting it.

Why is it a gamble? Worst case scenario Samsung is told no and they are right where they are today. It's not like lawyer fees matter in this kind of case. Both companies make enough money and have enough at stake to not worry about the cost. This seems like a low risk move with potentially large upsides. (Obligatory: IANAL)

They make themselves look silly/incompetent/time wasters in front of the judge. Even if you are not a lawyer, you probably realize you should not piss off a judge.

Re: Samsung’s lawyers demand to see the iPhone 5 and iPad 3

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If the final versions aren’t available, Samsung wants “the most current version of each to be produced instead.”

Given that Apple hasn't announced an iPad 3 or an iPhone 5, what are the odds they simply ship Samsung's lawyers an iPad 2 and an iPhone 4 and call it good?

Re: Samsung’s lawyers demand to see the iPhone 5 and iPad 3

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If the final versions aren’t available, Samsung wants “the most current version of each to be produced instead.” Given that Apple hasn't announced an iPad 3 or an iPhone 5, what are the odds they simply ship Samsung's lawyers an iPad 2 and an iPhone 4 and call it good?

They look fairly close when viewed head on, but then a lot of phones do. The EVO or just about any Android handset without a keyboard looks like a slightly bigger iPhone from the front. They've got a few more buttons, but other than that it's just a big touchscreen.

Turn any of them sideways though and the iPhone still looks better. This picture does a good job of showing that:

http://iphonehelp.in/content/uploads/2010/06/iphone-4-vs-gal...

Re: Samsung’s lawyers demand to see the iPhone 5 and iPad 3

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post #15

If the final versions aren’t available, Samsung wants “the most current version of each to be produced instead.” Given that Apple hasn't announced an iPad 3 or an iPhone 5, what are the odds they simply ship Samsung's lawyers an iPad 2 and an iPhone 4 and call it good?

They look fairly close when viewed head on, but then a lot of phones do. The EVO or just about any Android handset without a keyboard looks like a slightly bigger iPhone from the front. They've got a few more buttons, but other than that it's just a big touchscreen. Turn any of them sideways though and the iPhone still looks better. This picture does a good job of showing that: http://iphonehelp.in/content/uploads/20…

Compare the front of an iPhone 3G/3GS with the Galaxy S head on. That is an uncanny resemblance.

Re: Samsung’s lawyers demand to see the iPhone 5 and iPad 3

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My brother's first reaction when he saw my galaxy S was 'Wow, they don't even pretend they don't copy Apple anymore.' The phone has an uncanny similar look to the iPhone 3G. I think Apple had a legitimate case and don't understand all the Samsung love here. Apple wanting to see samsung's upcoming model to see if they are again copying, so they can get a jump on the lawsuit? I say 'fair'. Samsung copied the shit out o…

I don't think the phones are that similar. Certainly they're not similar enough to cause confusion for anyone under 40. I have seen the comparison and the Galaxy, while it obviously took some hints from the iPhone (as did all subsequent smartphones), has a distinct feel and shape. I know the difference immediately between and iPhone and a Galaxy.

Re: Samsung’s lawyers demand to see the iPhone 5 and iPad 3

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My brother's first reaction when he saw my galaxy S was 'Wow, they don't even pretend they don't copy Apple anymore.' The phone has an uncanny similar look to the iPhone 3G. I think Apple had a legitimate case and don't understand all the Samsung love here. Apple wanting to see samsung's upcoming model to see if they are again copying, so they can get a jump on the lawsuit? I say 'fair'. Samsung copied the shit out o…

I don't think the phones are that similar. Certainly they're not similar enough to cause confusion for anyone under 40. I have seen the comparison and the Galaxy, while it obviously took some hints from the iPhone (as did all subsequent smartphones), has a distinct feel and shape. I know the difference immediately between and iPhone and a Galaxy.

> Certainly they're not similar enough to cause confusion for anyone under 40

blow me, hipster scum. :-)

Re: Samsung’s lawyers demand to see the iPhone 5 and iPad 3

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it a gamble? Worst case scenario Samsung is told no and they are right where they are today. It's not like lawyer fees matter in this kind of case. Both companies make enough money and have enough at stake to not worry about the cost. This seems like a low risk move with potentially large upsides. (Obligatory: IANAL)

They make themselves look silly/incompetent/time wasters in front of the judge. Even if you are not a lawyer, you probably realize you should not piss off a judge.

Really? Why? Do judges talk to each other about what companies are time-wasters and base their judgments on related smalltalk? If not (and I assume the answer is no, despite my relative lack of legal knowledge), then what has Samsung or any other company to lose besides a few dollars?
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