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Re: Ex-Google engineers debut 'Cuil' way to search

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Any product that you have to explain to the user how to pronounce will fail. I looked at the word and my first thought was "how do you say that" - you don't win people over by making them feel stupid.

Don't overgeneralize. Consider "Audi." While obvious to a German speaker, an English speaker who has never heard the word before will wonder if it should be "oh-DI," "OH-di," "OW-di," or "ow-DI?" I think Cuil is a decent name, far better than Srchr or some other Web 2.0 contraction. If it overcomes its growing pains and solves all the hard problems involved in search, it'll do well.

Audi started in germany then went global. Is cuil starting in Ireland?

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It seems to me that a way to potentially creep up on google would be to make a specialist search engine. Some topic area that google is not so useful for searching on. Make a search system that 'understands' the domain in question, allowing it to index and search it really effectively. As a random example, say, a movies search engine. If it could be consistently more useful than google for finding out information abo…

I think that's how Google made some distance in the early days. I was using it and telling my friends about it when everyone was still using Yahoo!

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first things first...am i the only person who wants to keep saying "kweel" and not "cool"?? in terms of the site itself, i am sort of liking the design / layout of the search, although like agotterer said, it still needs a lot of work -- from what i can tell, popular search terms have pretty darn good results but unpopular search terms return sub-par results (see his example haha)... in terms of a threat to google??…

I personally found the search results page a tad confusing. Having the results in a grid layout, my first impression was that they were all ads! .. also, how do I know which result is #1 ? Top left? Middle?

I actually liked the grid view, it fits a lot more results on one screen so I can scan them quickly. They should make it auto-fit the screen width.

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Searching Cuil for 'cuil' results in a lot of hits, none being their site. Searching Google for 'cuil' has them up at number one, plus news results from today's PR bash. That's a big ball of fail.

Searching for 'cuill' (two 'l's) works - which is what they apparently changed their name from, seemingly at the last minute.

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It seems to be putting incorrect pictures with names. I did a simple search of "Hacker News" and Sam Odio came up on the first search page. I thought, cool, Cuil managed to put his picture right next to his Hacker News profile. But then I clicked through to his blog and unless he's really changed over time, I think they got the picture wrong :) Take a look: http://billkatz-test.appspot.com/static/images/cuil.png

I did a search for "Terror Island" and although the first link to the webcomic http://terrorisland.net had its title bar correct, the links to individual strips had unrelated pictures of boats.

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What you should make is a specialist search engine for hackers. They're the early adopters in search engines, so if you get them you have the quickest path to getting everyone else. Imagine how alarmed Google would be if there were a different search engine the top 10k hackers all used, even if they had everyone else. And rightly so. http://news.ycombinator.com/apply ...

That's optimistic, but to be successful with "hackers" the search engine would most likely have to steer its user experience in directions that wouldn't appeal to an everyday user. Typically, us geeks want both maximum control and elegant usability, always preferring control to usability. With most users, the inverse is true.

Sure, there are obstacles, but my instincts tell me a clever person could find their way around them. Or at least, considering the size of the prize, the odds of finding a solution makes the problem worth taking a shot at.

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I personally found the search results page a tad confusing. Having the results in a grid layout, my first impression was that they were all ads! .. also, how do I know which result is #1 ? Top left? Middle?

why does it matter which result is #1 if you can find what you are looking for on the first page in the first row or first column?

I assumed #1 was top left, but which is #2? To the right or down? My guess is that you read down in columns.

The pictures are misleading. For example, #2 for my name is a page about another guy with the same name, but with a picture of me that's not on that page. Very wrong.

I was excited for a second to see that it thought I had an Erdos number of 2, but it was for someone else with the same last name.

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It seems to me that a way to potentially creep up on google would be to make a specialist search engine. Some topic area that google is not so useful for searching on. Make a search system that 'understands' the domain in question, allowing it to index and search it really effectively. As a random example, say, a movies search engine. If it could be consistently more useful than google for finding out information abo…

This is exactly what Microsoft is doing. Microsoft is trying to tackle search in different verticals: healthvault for health, Farecast (acquired) for travel, Cashback for commerce, etc.

The challenge is that users don't always think "hmm, I'm doing a movie query, let me go to imdb". They go to Google and type everything into one box, and expect to get a link to imdb or wherever.

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My initial reaction to Cuil was positive, but that's cause I kinda liked the interface and the first few searches I tried did really well. Lesson learned: Try at least 20, cause some were just horrendous.

That said, there is some promise, and the "related information" tab, while currently only semi-useful does show some promise. The challenge is that people are not going to have the patience for Cuil to be "at least as good as Google". That just doesn't work, and shouldn't

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