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It was fun when Trump was banned from Twitter, but now I’m mad about WSB!!
I implore everyone to go re-read all the HN articles about Trump and far-right deplatforming where numerous --highly downvoted-- comments quite correctly predicted what was coming. Trump was "only a test."
There are likely people on this forum who would reject that culture because of their ideals. Those words fit right into a category called "ableism" whether you use them for humor or not. You're not fighting some hedge companies paid troll machines or whatever else you can dream up. What's happening to WSBs is more tantamount to what happened to the internet and many small forums back in the late 2000s when Facebook and Twitter signed on millions of people who had never used the internet before. What you're fighting is people who want the internet to reflect reality.
Here the comments seem full of old chestnuts like 'it's a private company, they do what they want' and 'WSB is manupulating the market'
The reddit is actually discussing the core of the matter and their next steps.
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"It's a private company, they can do what they want!"
Yes. They are a private company. Yes they can do what they want. And people can critizise. It was the same with Trump and it is the same now.
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I believe when you sign up to Facebook you need to accept some terms and condition clause - this is the contract which is signed between you and Facebook (Facebook is referring that document when users are banned, so apparently they consider this as contract). Facebook earns money thanks to its users, providing them some service so definitely there should be a contract here. Now, when you look on those T&C, they are…
> a clear, formal contract They got "terms & conditions". This is the contract. Formalising another contract would require legal fees. Is every user willing to pay a lawyer $200 to use FB? (and another $200 for Pinterest, $200 for Twitter, etc.) Is every user willing to pay AGAIN another $200 on the next "T&C Update"? If you think $200 is too much, come up with anothe number, and then multiply it by every free servic…
> The notification, seen by Reuters, said without detail that the group violated policies on “adult sexual exploitation.” That's some bullshit right there. Spin the wheel, come up with a random charge, and ban the entire community with zero recourse and no way to appeal.
The slippery slope is in full effect. Platforms engaged in mass, coordinated de-platformings and people lapped it up because orange man bad. Now the orange man is gone, but the mass coordinated de-platformings still remain and are now being wielded for YOLO reasons. I have been on wsb subreddit and discord server for a long time. There has been zero change in the culture or the type of content or the tone of the conv…
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If you manage a community that is even remotely controversial, you’d better start asking your community for their email address, as an emergency backup. Possibly even ask for their phone number. Though it's tempting, don't message them at all. Just hang onto it. Only use it to if your community is banned and you need to start over somewhere else. Then email/text them the location of the new community.
You probably should start an alternative community right away so that you can promote it in the current community and maybe cross-post until you get banned with a warning on each post in the twitter/facebook community.
I suspect people do this with Twitter and other social media accounts as well.
I suspect you can do the same thing with groups. For example when WSB went down there were already backups within minutes.
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Agreed on WSB culture but.... The "real question," imo is not about how FB, discord or reddit handle WSB's culture. It's why have they all decided to act right now, just as this gamestop maneuver is happening? That is the fishy part... and it's too fishy to leave it unaddressed and talk content. Either way, this just shows why we can't have a handful of companies moderating most of the internet under a TOS regime.
It might be fishy but there is also a lot new interest in WSB and everything related. So much interest that /r/WSB voluntarily shut themselves down for a while because they couldn't handle the moderation situation. So why it's happening now can more multifaceted than the more conspiratorial reasons. Even increased media attention is enough for someone to act -- The Hackernews community uses that all the time to get a…
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Serious question: Since Facebook is a private company, does the "if you don't like it, you can build your own platform" argument apply here? Or does that only apply selectively when it benefits partisan politics? The RobinHood $GME situation is the natural next step in societal evolution once extreme censorship is given a pass. If you support the "go build it yourself" argument, you no longer have the right to compla…
Since Facebook is a private company They haven't been a private company since 2012.
> The notification, seen by Reuters, said without detail that the group violated policies on “adult sexual exploitation.” That's some bullshit right there. Spin the wheel, come up with a random charge, and ban the entire community with zero recourse and no way to appeal.
Okay so I completely agree but I want to add something to what’s going on Half the fun of WSB is that it is enormously offensive. The foundation of the community is that a forum talking about stock investing strategies is, at its heart, really dumb. It’s harder than most people can manage to evaluate all the “DD” flying around and any advice other than playing it safe (r/investing) is stupid to take from a rando on a…
Politically correct speech is bankrupt in all forms of ethics and morality if it favors the second group just because they have kinder words. Generally why lots of people are disgusted by PC rhetoric. It's bullshit to its core because it holds no real core value, it just keeps things superficially pretty for the predators of society.
I'm enjoying this ride and wish there was more I could do because it's become bigger than the money. This whole thing is pulling back the curtain and we're getting to see the frail ankles of the wizard.