I was expecting this to be about Chernobyl. But this article is also fine. Not great, not terrible.
A small, delayed avalanche may have been responsible for the Dyatlov Incident
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Re: A small, delayed avalanche may have been responsible for the Dyatlov Incident
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you downvoted? This is not at all a simple theory. It’s interesting but it defies the Occam’s razor principle. It would involve a very specific combination of natural events. So-called skeptics will spend their lives trying to explain very strange things with everyday normal causes such as « swamp gas » or « reflection on the windshield » when obviously a larger curiosity and openness of mind would be require…
Take a closer look at roadkill the next few times you see it. You'll often notice the eyes, tongue, etc are missing. Sometimes the corpse will look like a skeleton with skin but no organs. These are circumstances commonly attributed to aliens or cuppracabra attacking cattle. However it's very common in roadkill when you start to look for it. It's pretty mundane, though I understand some people will find it startling…
The „conspiracy theorists“ often seem to dismiss multi-factor explanations. When in fact they may be rare when you calculate for a single event, but if you consider how many events are happening across the globe it’s just not that improbable that a medial sensation was in fact the result of an - individually unlikely - chain of events
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
What scavengers would that be? No small animal capable of doing that is known to be able to survive at that height. small number of birds can fly that high, that's about it.
The lammergeyer, a sort of high-altitude vulture. They're known to eat the dead on Everest.
> They even have been observed living at altitudes of 7,500 m (24,600 ft) on Mount Everest
> The bearded vulture is the only known vertebrate whose diet consists almost exclusively (70 to 90 percent) of bone.
> The bearded vulture (Gypaetus barbatus), also known as the lammergeier and ossifrage
Re: A small, delayed avalanche may have been responsible for the Dyatlov Incident
#34I was expecting this to be about Chernobyl. But this article is also fine. Not great, not terrible.
Why would you expect that?
Re: A small, delayed avalanche may have been responsible for the Dyatlov Incident
#35I was expecting this to be about Chernobyl. But this article is also fine. Not great, not terrible.
Why would you expect that?
Dyatlov was one of the featured characters in HBO´s "Chernobyl". His quote "not great, not terrible" became a meme for a while.
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#36This is a dupe, sort of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25952168
Re: A small, delayed avalanche may have been responsible for the Dyatlov Incident
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would you expect that?
Dyatlov was one of the featured characters in HBO´s "Chernobyl". His quote "not great, not terrible" became a meme for a while. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/anatoly-dyatlov
In the Dyatlov group there was a real "liquidator" of a nuclear disaster Kystym-57 (the 2nd worst in history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster) https://dyatlovpass.com/yuri-krivonischenko - an engineer at the USSR version of Hanford. Later he tried to resign very disgruntled from his job, and instead they reassigned him to the most polluted site. Given the level of secrecy back then, especially considering that it was a weapon plutonium facility, and what he may have known and what shape his disgruntlement may have taken... so i wouldn't be surprised if the issue was taken care about in this way of "accident" (people were killed for less - for example in 1962 USSR shot a peaceful demonstration of regular workers in Novocherkassk who wanted better living conditions, and that was much less important than anything related to nuclear weapons in those years)
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#38The actual scientific paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-020-00081-8/ Still no explanation about the "numerous unexplained observations. While hypothermia was determined to be the main cause of death, four hikers had severe thorax or skull injuries, two were found with missing eyes and one without tongue; some were almost naked and barefoot, traces of radioactivity were found on some of their clothes, and…
People taking off their clothes is common with severe hypothermia. Lacerations and blunt trauma is common for avalanche victims. The soft/detachable parts (eyes, tongue) can be still eaten by scavengers while frozen. So the only unusual part would be the radioactivity, strange lights, and what triggered the avalanche. Which could all be explained by some classified military test.
The two people in the group with radioactive clothing worked in
a nuclear facility.
As another commenter pointed out, the YT channel Lemmino made an excellent video with research based on the primary sources, and the conclusion is, unsurprisingly, not aliens. When all the facts are considered, the whole incident is probably only still considered mysterious because it makes a better story.
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#39I still wonder how could nine experienced hikers decide to flee without clothes in extreme weather conditions for about a mile after a visually relatively small avalanche.
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#40A local guide told me one of the scientific versions, which is common among local experts. It is quite simple: the missile test scared a herd of reindeer and they ran along a path known to them, which passed through the tent. The Russian authorities even now cannot disclose information about the tests, because those who launched the missiles are still alive and have high ranks (and if the information is disclosed, these military personnel would have to be jailed for causing death by negligence). The Mansi wouldn't tell about the reindeer because they were afraid they would be exterminated. That's where the science ends, the rest is just the tour guide's thoughts.
Also, the tour guide said that Dyatlov's group was not an exploratory group, but just a few students going on a hike. It was known about the snowstorm in advance, but for some reason it was still decided to go on, rather than wait out the good weather. Another important factor was that the group had left warm clothes for the return trip, so those who got out of the tent just froze.
Sorry if there are mistakes, I used DeepL.