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Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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There is a clear difference between racism and acknowledging white privilege. White privilege simple describes one way in which racism manifests itself. If you can't tell the difference between a KKK member and someone says that people with white names getting called back for job interviews more than people with black names is white privilege then you are willfully ignorant. It is not racist to say that someone benef…

I'm fairly educated on these things, and I'm a racial minority married to a white woman with mixed kids, and I'm still not sure I understand what people mean when they refer to "white privilege." I get that there is a distinct cultural bias against Black people (what people call "anti-Blackness"). Living in the south this was quite apparent to me. This is structural in nature, and quite distinct from normal majority/…

You're always conveniently omitting that you've - by your own description - grown up as a rich kid in the US. Wonder if that can have an impact!

It's pathetic to keep going on about your Bangladeshi background over and over when you've been a rich since your was a kid and now spend your days defending the status quo and thus your privileges.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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I've been anti union for almost my entire life as you cannot really be a member of a union without at the same time supporting a number of unrelated cases that I disagree wildly with. That said I am starting to feel that we could need something like unions, only they should avoid messing with international affairs, avoid supporting any political parties and stick to working for their members directly.

> avoid supporting any political parties Unions represent their workers and by extension must advocate politically for workers' rights. How can a union fight for workers' rights if they're barred from political activity? If companies can engage in political activity, it follows that workers' unions are just as entitled.

> How can a union fight for workers' rights if they're barred from political activity?

You are replying to something I didn't write.

I want them barred from supporting specific parties, not from influencing laws, negotiating, organizing, providing legal support etc.

Around here unions largely align with what is probably Labour elsewhere, which makes sense. But I personally feel I cannot in good conscience be found supporting someone who directly time and time again organizes boycotts against middle Easts only somehow working democracy.

I cannot live with supporting companies that are openly hostile to values I find important.

So I end up outside the unions, at least until someone creates one that promises to not do that.

> If companies can engage in political activity, it follows that workers' unions are just as entitled.

Yep. And that's ok. But I won't support them as long as they try to meddle in international affairs or even push national lawmaking in directions I think are abhorrent.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Even then you could still end up in the gulag. My wife's great grandfather spent years in work camps because his drinking "friends" turned him in for expressing "unfavourable opinions about Stalin". While not anywhere nearly that extreme, it makes me nervous that we're moving in that direction culturally (where it's socially acceptable and encouraged to turn someone in for having the "wrong" thoughts).

This is in no way an endorsement of the Soviet Union but it does need to be noted that the Soviet Union was in most parts of it's history, far more moderate than the Soviet Union under Stalin, Stalin has a higher body count than Hitler. Now in saying that, the Soviet Union was never a bastion of enlightenment era liberalism, free thought or personal freedoms. I agree it's not a end goal we should be striving for.

Interestingly the same could've been said for China post-Deng, pre-Pooh.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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That we only seem to be reading this terrible story in Newsweek (despite the facts being there to see) suggests then that "SEO scams" are doing a better job than mainstream journalists in some cases.

I suppose that depends on whether you think the job of journalists is to report news, or to generate clicks.

How is somebody being fired for this reason not news?

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Those quotes really don’t warrant the disproportional responses to his book nor the vitriol directed at him personally & professionally. I think it’s time we start calling out the social media mobbing for what it really is: hateful .

Did you actually read his interview though? If you’re going to mock your entire genre, you should at least be accurate. Otherwise, critics will rightly point out that you’re writing a genre you don’t know. When you add in that second quote, it’s even more obvious that he doesn’t know his genre. The dude wrote some books at a team with YA was all the rage and got a film deal out of it. He made some godawful marketing…

What could possibly be wrong with mocking the Hunger Games?

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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>You are missing the "and dealt with". What makes you think that? It's literally in the quote. Covering up hatred is not dealing with it, it's a facile attempt at ignoring it.

Yes, it is in his quote. It is nowhere to be seen in today's world, though. You're here talking about letting the nazis spread their hatred as much as they want, but I am not seeing you having any plan for how to dealing with them, other than just letting them do whatever they want. Once you let them out, what are you planning to do to deal with them?

>It is nowhere to be seen in today's world, though.

Hatred is very difficult to confront effectively. It requires inner strength and a great capacity for love. So many people lack that and just default to mirroring that hatred back at the hater, or just try to cover it up and ignore it.

It's hard to see things when you don't want to see them.

>Once you let them out, what are you planning to do to deal with them?

If you want a "plan" then simply study the philosophy and history of Dr. King.

Here's a great place to start:

https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/lov...

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Really? You seemed pretty willing to defend a Christian (cult?) publisher by completely ignoring the faults of the article to attack criticism based on their religion. Knowing if a publisher has a clear incentive can help determine how accurate and well-sourced their claim is.

You seem to be hallucinating. I cannot find anything I said defending the publisher. Perhaps you were responding to another post. I have upvoted both of your posts that seem to be responding to me, because I much prefer a downvote and discourse to being down voted without comment.

Your position was "I judge things by how accurate and well sourced the claim was, and this claim of dodgy ownership is irrelevant." I can't see it as anything but a defense based on religious/political affiliation.

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Pretty sure leftist authoritarianism exists and is violent. i.e.: Communist Russia, Maoist China, Cuba.

Bob Altemeyer would disagree. He formulated the idea of right-wing authoritarianism (RWA) as a psychological condition. His research discovered that there is no corresponding left-wing authoritarianism -- that even the authoritarianism exhibited by followers of Stalin or Mao was right-wing. Kinda hard to be authoritarian if one of your central beliefs is in the fraternity and equality of all. It's more useful to desc…

Thomas Costello has found countering data: https://psyarxiv.com/3nprq, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00926...

This sums it up pretty well: "Left-wing authoritarians, in Costello's research, typically strongly agree with the following statements: the rich should be stripped of their belongs and status; deep-down just about all conservatives are racist, sexist and homophobic; classrooms can be safe spaces that protect students from the discussion of harmful ideas." (https://www.newstatesman.com/international/2020/05/there-suc...)

All of which lines up with the rhetoric from the Bolsheviks and the Maoists and a lot of the modern day critical race theorists.

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You are also bothering to mention the religion of the owner, adding the (in this context) pejorative adjective "odd" and possibly more.

I mean, they are Christians and they are odd. Should he not be allowed to say this?

Absolutely allowed.

It does however feel weird in the same way that "odd female something", "odd muslim something", "odd socialist something", "odd atheist something".

Leaving out details that are not relevant is IMO smart because it helps the reader to avoid prematurely making up their mind because of irrelevant details.

So my take is tptacek should be allowed to write it and we should be allowed to point it out.

And one more thing: my respect for tptacek has been growing even if we clash from time to time in various settings.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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The person in question wasn't fired for "random takes" but rather being seen in the vicinity of services that have been seen in the vicinity of people making decidedly non-random takes on political matters. And now she, perhaps correctly, believes she is the victim of religious and political persecution. As for not being mass hysteria, from the outside looking in it's clearly exactly that. Firing someone because of a…

> The US left appear to be descendeding into full bore anti-conservative hysteria. This is exceptionally dangerous because when the left has taken power in the past with that kind of mentality it ended up in bloodshed on massive scales. That must not happen to America. I wouldn't single out any particular faction on this to be honest. The Obama birther movement purportedly started in 2004 and Trump himself peddled th…

Obama birtherism was dumb but never took over swathes of institutions like this. Even Trump abandoned it before he became President.

What we're seeing now is not merely a set of hysterical beliefs, but widespread pulling on the levers of power on the basis of them. That seems pretty new.

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