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Open Source Mission Control Software from NASA

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Re: Open Source Mission Control Software from NASA

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Post by ehnto »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #5

My initial reaction is not running space missions, but that it will be a replacement for graphite/grafana - our company's telemetry is the web requests hitting the main site or database queries on the new server or trial sign-ups achieved, email reminders sent etc? In short - Watching day to day operations and looking for anything unusual. I think this kind of platform is wide open country - every corp has something…

Do you feel this is a common thing for a medium sized company to use? Would you pay much money for something like that?

Years ago now, I developed a platform that allowed users to add "blocks" of data points pulled from any API to a dashboard to achieve the same goal. I never went the whole distance because I didn't get any users, but the dream was themed dashboards of graphs, tickers, event triggers and so on.

Re: Open Source Mission Control Software from NASA

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Post by Swizec »

ehnto wrote: post #21
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #5

My initial reaction is not running space missions, but that it will be a replacement for graphite/grafana - our company's telemetry is the web requests hitting the main site or database queries on the new server or trial sign-ups achieved, email reminders sent etc? In short - Watching day to day operations and looking for anything unusual. I think this kind of platform is wide open country - every corp has something…

Do you feel this is a common thing for a medium sized company to use? Would you pay much money for something like that? Years ago now, I developed a platform that allowed users to add "blocks" of data points pulled from any API to a dashboard to achieve the same goal. I never went the whole distance because I didn't get any users, but the dream was themed dashboards of graphs, tickers, event triggers and so on.

Datadog IPO’d on this idea. We used them at a 30-ish person company and hot damn it was amazing. 7/7 would use again.

Re: Open Source Mission Control Software from NASA

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Post by atemerev »

villasv wrote: post #14

Would be nice to have a comparison with existing alternatives, specially Grafana and Kibana. The first win is a cooler sounding name and backer credentials.

It is much simpler, for once. Just a Javascript library, basically, not everything and its dog only usable from Docker, like Grafana/Kibana (this accidental complexity is a main reason I don’t adopt this stack).

Re: Open Source Mission Control Software from NASA

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Post by larkinrichards »

mjthompson wrote: post #24

Purely out of interest, does anyone have any insight into what sort of systems they use to control satellites and probes? I guess it's in house stuff but I'm curious if it's an ancient system - this sort of stuff interests me.

Few different options, ITOS- https://itos.gsfc.nasa.gov/itos-capabilities.php

AMMOS is a suite of reusable tools for missions: https://ammos.nasa.gov/

Re: Open Source Mission Control Software from NASA

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Post by skissane »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #7
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #5

My initial reaction is not running space missions, but that it will be a replacement for graphite/grafana - our company's telemetry is the web requests hitting the main site or database queries on the new server or trial sign-ups achieved, email reminders sent etc? In short - Watching day to day operations and looking for anything unusual. I think this kind of platform is wide open country - every corp has something…

Also, if NASA is working with USDS, then the playbook is Play 13: "Default to Open". Not sure if they are but could be likely! > When appropriate, publish source code of projects or components online source: https://playbook.cio.gov/#play13

Unfortunately, NASA has to follow ITAR, which means that a lot of stuff has to be kept closed - for example, basically anything on the topic of computational fluid dynamics (e.g. [0]). US persons can request a copy of much of this software, but they have to sign an agreement with NASA promising not to redistribute it without NASA's permission.

Are China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, al Qaeda, ISIS, really disadvantaged by not being able to access NASA's CFD software? I'm sure the nation-states have the money and people to work it out for themselves, whereas the non-state actors wouldn't know what to do with it.

[0] https://software.nasa.gov/software/ARC-14400-1

Re: Open Source Mission Control Software from NASA

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Post by Badfood »

larkinrichards wrote: post #25
mjthompson wrote: post #24

Purely out of interest, does anyone have any insight into what sort of systems they use to control satellites and probes? I guess it's in house stuff but I'm curious if it's an ancient system - this sort of stuff interests me.

Few different options, ITOS- https://itos.gsfc.nasa.gov/itos-capabilities.php AMMOS is a suite of reusable tools for missions: https://ammos.nasa.gov/

Wow. I'm guessing ITOS isn't OSS?

Re: Open Source Mission Control Software from NASA

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Post by mjthompson »

larkinrichards wrote: post #25
mjthompson wrote: post #24

Purely out of interest, does anyone have any insight into what sort of systems they use to control satellites and probes? I guess it's in house stuff but I'm curious if it's an ancient system - this sort of stuff interests me.

Few different options, ITOS- https://itos.gsfc.nasa.gov/itos-capabilities.php AMMOS is a suite of reusable tools for missions: https://ammos.nasa.gov/

Exactly what I was looking for, but I didn't know what terms to Google - many thanks!

Re: Open Source Mission Control Software from NASA

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Post by AWildC182 »

For those interested in something targeted towards more diverse systems take a look at https://cosmosrb.com/

It's a command and telemetry package for working with embedded systems, arduinos through satellites, and includes data visualization and command interfaces. It's released under AGPL by Ball Aerospace and has a following at NASA as well.

It's particularly useful for dealing with small systems where you'd usually write a python script for FTDI/serial communication. You can instead just define your commands and telemetry structs in a config file and the system makes it work.

Re: Open Source Mission Control Software from NASA

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Post by phonethrowaway »

Badfood wrote: post #27
larkinrichards wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Few different options, ITOS- https://itos.gsfc.nasa.gov/itos-capabilities.php AMMOS is a suite of reusable tools for missions: https://ammos.nasa.gov/

Wow. I'm guessing ITOS isn't OSS?

Nope.

https://software.nasa.gov/software/GSC-17915-1

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