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Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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You don't think it's possible that ads make people want things they don't need? Or to put it another way, you believe advertising is not effective at all on anyone?

I don't believe the author's bizarre story that, while pretending to be a Trump supporter on the internet, he was brainwashed into wanting to buy a gun by nefarious advertisers. People are susceptible to advertising but we aren't that susceptible. I bet the author is very concerned about "internet radicalization". I bet he's so concerned that he began to feel the stirrings of his own radicalization while pretending t…

There is a reason why commercial companies spend a lot of money on ads. They work. A lot more than people want to believe. Ads tell you how to be a man, how to be successful and admired by your peers, how to be attractive to potential partners, how to secure your future etc. Repeat it enough times and you will start to believe it. You probably believe that you need to eat meat for protein right? And that you should drink milk for calcium right? All BS successfully programmed into you through ads.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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Not many cultures have ever been free from widespread pervasive detachment from reality. By default, that's religion, though some political ideologies and superstitions have also filled that need. If you really don't like it, you probably don't like humans. And I tend to agree, humans have a fault in their brains causing irrational beliefs, but it probably serves some more valuable purpose than being right.

Religion is arguably useful to those who follow it (state of mind, material benefits) vs. those who are in the out-group. Could the same be said of Q content?

While I don't really know anything about Qanon. I guess it provides a sense exclusive group membership, similar to flat-Earthism. Not just anybody can join for the same reason not just anybody can suddenly believe a goddess molded a living child from the dirt she scraped off her body.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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They're not circumventing the system, they're circumventing the false positives of the gun-detection algorithm. As the parent pointed out, advertising these gun-related things is explicitly allowed by Facebook.

The end justifies the means?

I guess so. It's not as if there's anything morally wrong with playing the game of hide-and-seek that Facebook created. No laws are being broken and nobody's being harmed.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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So what is the argument here? Facebook should manipulate their advertising marketplace to prevent this? You can buy ads to sell your gun supplies and body armor but when it comes to targeting the ads, you can't choose the demographic groups that are buying this stuff up like it is going out of style? I think Facebook is awful, but this how their business works. I can't see them going out of their way to not serve the…

Oh, I think you misunderstood, I am fully in agreement with you here, I wasn't proposing a change. I was just answering to a comment to clarify an earlier point. The specifics I mentioned are not something that I am proposing as a target for a change, because, as you said, this is how their ad business works, and it seems pretty fair.

Sorry, that was an awkward way to phrase that. I was addressing the thread as a whole, not your specific comment.

What I mean is that this is the predictable and proven behavior of Facebook, so is this a target for change now that we don't like this particular result? Or should Facebook be somehow regulated to prevent this type of behavior generally?

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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Why does facebook do this rather than let third party advertisers advertise? I thought they got most of their money from third party advertisers, not selling their own products. Note - gun sales are very strong in the US. Antifa / BLM / Armed protestors.

Antifa is not real, BLM is peaceful, and the majority of armed protesters are white supremacist and/or Trump supporters.
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