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Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by creato »

kerng wrote: post #219
simias wrote: post #115

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I think it's a tough decision to make. In general I understand that Google would prevent review bombing, since it can very easily be abused by social media mobs or competitors. The point of reviews is to give a genuine idea of how people on average like a given app. Reviem bombing completely distorts that, whether it be 1-star or 5-star reviews. But here it's a pretty huge app, and the bombing is motivated by a real…

Not really. Many of people are rightfully upset and want to leave a 1 star review. It would be extremely inappropriate if Google removed my review. I think the app sucks if they can just prevent you from trading a stock and make you the bagholder in favor of large investors. Seems like a legitimate concern that hundred thousands of other people share - not some organized random prank. People are losing money as we sp…

It seems like maybe the solution is not to remove reviews, but weight them somehow. 100k reviews left in 2 days probably shouldn't have the same weight as 100k reviews left over 2 years.

Or a more sophisticated version of this would be to somehow cluster reviews based on the particular issue they are reporting.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by chkaloon »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #224
chc wrote: post #186

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I think there are a couple of other recent presidential hopefuls who centered their messages much more around reducing the structural power of billionaires and large corporations.

> who centered their messages much more around reducing the structural power of billionaires and large corporations. The problem is that there is a segment of the American voters who believe that if the current billionaires and large corporations would quit screwing them, they would become the billionaires and owners of the large corporations. As such they are all for screwing over the current crop of billionaires, b…

I've heard it said that Americans all think they are potential millionaires and billionaires that have temporarily hit a down patch. That's why democratic socialism will never fly here except for isolated programs.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by booleandilemma »

tylerjwilk00 wrote: post #354
partiallypro wrote: post #8

How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

And the news pits us against one another because God forbid we all get along and work together. That would be the real threat.

Could a solution to this be a 3rd political party that unites people together somehow? Instead of fighting between democrats and republicans all the time.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by eternalban »

utkugenc wrote: post #290
animal_spirits wrote: post #246

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Exactly, how do you define "fake review"? Google sees 100K+ negative reviews coming in for one app on one day. What do you think they're going to do? Take 'em all down and call it a day. I really doubt that there is some incredibly corrupt culture in Google Play reviews or something like some are suggesting. I really the product owners just want to go home for the day/turn off the computer and eat dinner, just like e…

So, if prosecution or police receives too many (above average) complaints about something on a single day, they should just trash all of them and go home, is that what you are saying?

No, those entities are subject to laws. Google and friends have transcended the mundane world of us mere mortals.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by ehsankia »

teruakohatu wrote: post #106
glenvdb wrote: post #53

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This reminds me of the "review bombing" debacles that have plagued Steam over recent years. Valve implemented a system to detect these patterns and discard the ratings. Valve had no particular stake in the games being "bombed", but they do have a stake in the trust people have in their platform. People want to know if a game is truly good or bad and not have to wonder if it was the victim of some kind of vendetta. At…

There is a huge difference. Review bombs are by people who usually have not played the game/app but post negative reviews on mass because of something usually unrelated to the game itself. In the case of Robinhood they are written by people upset that they have been monetarily screwed by the app. There were millions of people in WSB, 100,000 negitive reviews is only a fraction of that.

Either way, this could've been an automated system kicking in, which probably cannot tell between legitimate and "illegitimate" review bombing.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by ehsankia »

repsilat wrote: post #60
cmdli wrote: post #16

Honest question: why does Google care here? They don't really have a stake in the GME situation, with no short or long positions (I'm assuming). They aren't that connected to Wall Street companies. Why protect Robinhood at all?

I don't think this is about the specific news or Robinhood's specific actions. More likely Google have a policy (or a habit) of removing reviews that don't look "organic", or reviews that seem driven by news or agenda. App developers will more be more likely to publish on your platform if their reviews are less likely to be unfairly mobbed or something. Just guessing, obviously, and I'm not sure how the contours of s…

> More likely Google have a policy (or a habit)

Or automated system

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by Covzire »

px43 wrote: post #71
jokethrowaway wrote: post #6

If someone predicted 10 years ago what Big Tech did in the last years, they would have been labeled conspiracy theorist.

Where did you live 10 years ago that wasn't run by corporate greed and corruption, or were you just too young to remember it? If anything, things are better now than they were 10 years ago, and things were even worse 10 years before that. One reason that things are getting better is that more people are paying attention, which makes that fun paradox where a bunch of people who are new to this whole thing perceive the…

"Morality police" was once a 80's or 90's trope or meme against the religious right coming from the left. Now, those with interest in policing morality from a leftward slant and those with special interests at other entrenched mega-corps have both found nearly unlimited use of puppet strings at SV firms to wield their power with frightening alacrity.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by bArray »

Just a reminder to de-Google your life too. There are some decent alternatives out there, for example Nextcloud for storage and open-source Linux phones like the PinePhone and Librem 5. As for video platforms, Library is looking promising, as well as other peer networks like PeerTube and BitChute. Alternatives are out there!

Bare in mind, Google have pulled these kinds of stunts before. Just recently they removed a bunch of negative comments and dislikes from Biden's presidential speech - whatever your political position, I think nobody should be above criticism.

Vote with your feet!

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

ghufran_syed wrote: post #193
partiallypro wrote: post #150

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If you through Trump was bad, just wait until a competent version shows up

I expect pompeo or haley to feature prominently in that role in 2024 unless Trump himself screws things up for republicans by trying to make a comeback

Awful as Google is, I'd still trust it more than anything with Mercer's fingerprints on it. (Which is barely at all. But still.)

As for 2024 - it is obvious now that the only way the GOP can win another election is by dismantling democracy.

There is no chance whatsoever that the GOP can win again without wilfully disenfranchising tens of millions of voters. In spite of the bot mob on Twitter trying to create the impression there's some kind of enraged far right majority agitating for representation, the reality is the numbers just aren't there for a clean win.

So that is what is happening now. 2020 is the last chance for the far right, and they know that - which is why they intend to take the shot well before 2024.

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