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Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by DennisP »

ArcVRArthur wrote: post #228
partiallypro wrote: post #8

How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

The internet has been going poorly for awhile. I don’t see how we’ll get off this track where the large crush and silence the small. I’m not sold on IPFS, GunDB, Zeronet, ect... My guess is federated XMPP or RSS might be a few of the only vestiges of resilient organization. Even Matrix has signalled they’ll begin looking into deplatforming. https://matrix.org/blog/2020/10/19/combating-abuse-in-matrix... Sad times in…

I read your Matrix link and it's not top-down deplatforming, it's user-driven moderation:

> What if we had a standard way to let users themselves build up and share their own views of whether other users, messages, rooms, servers etc. are obnoxious or not? What if you could visualise and choose which filters to apply to your view of Matrix?

The closest to actual deplatforming is:

> Admins running servers in particular jurisdictions then have the option to enforce whatever rules they need on their servers

But honestly, in a federated system I always assumed the server owners could do that. As long as it's not mandated from on high by the Matrix team, anyone can host whatever they want by setting up their own server.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by Alupis »

mhh__ wrote: post #341
Alupis wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One can simultaneously be a genius and a misogynist. To some people, the former is unacceptable so long as the latter exists. To understand an individual can indeed be both is the doublethink.

Richard Feynman probably fits the former description at least for some parts of his life.

Misogyny was just an example. All great people (and arguably all people) have good and bad traits - particularly if you go looking for the bad.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by mdoms »

rvz wrote: post #278
jokethrowaway wrote: post #6

If someone predicted 10 years ago what Big Tech did in the last years, they would have been labeled conspiracy theorist.

Stallman predicted this for decades and was labeled as such until Edward Snowden came about and showed the evidence right in our faces. As usual, Big Tech strikes again with a lesser role this time. It won't be the last until some 'action' is done to keep them in check.

People may have taken him more seriously if he didn't eat the crud off the bottom of his own bare foot and sexually harass female colleagues. Dude undermined his own message by being a complete creep.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by jodrellblank »

chordalkeyboard wrote: post #285
jodrellblank wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I hate Carlin's stuff, it's so fitting for the internet tech sites because the main point of it is jeering and sneering at people who aren't you, who aren't woke. George Carlin was a Hollywood film star with a net worth in the millions if not tens of millions. He's on stage, not working a 9-5, getting you to laugh with him at all the "idiots". It's a big club and he was in it.

I disagree, having a net worth of tens of millions doesn’t make you comparable to an oligarch. Depending on where you live, if you don’t have 30-70 million in liquid assets, you are middle class (or below).

I wasn't comparing Carlin to an Oligarch, I was complaining about the culture of quoting Carlin. If you posted "everyone except me is dumb" you'd get downvoted. If you post Carlin saying "everyone except us is dumb" you get upvoted.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by eternalban »

partiallypro wrote: post #8

How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

> this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices.

An “idea”? It’s like saying there is an entrenched idea that the Earth goes around the Sun.

The political class tried everything in the book to divide this nation. And in just one day, at least among the “retarded”, there is unity. No wonder they are all coming out of the woodwork to claim support for the retards. They are worried.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by lamontcg »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #224
chc wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are a couple of other recent presidential hopefuls who centered their messages much more around reducing the structural power of billionaires and large corporations.

> who centered their messages much more around reducing the structural power of billionaires and large corporations. The problem is that there is a segment of the American voters who believe that if the current billionaires and large corporations would quit screwing them, they would become the billionaires and owners of the large corporations. As such they are all for screwing over the current crop of billionaires, b…

Sir, this is a site run by an investment fund, I'm afraid you've stepped a bit out of line there.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by rnotaro »

benji_is_me wrote: post #248
tqi wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is not exactly known for preventing spam account creation...

The original (now banned) discord had >300k members alone.

Discord have an hard limit of 250 000 users so that's a lie.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by tinyhouse »

argomo wrote: post #351
tinyhouse wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big money? What big money exactly? Do you really think Google care about RH and its money? They do it to prevent organized activities of rating manipulation. The RH case might be justified but Google cannot be the judge. If tomorrow the corner store across the street receives 100K reviews in 1 hour, Google would respond in a similar way.

I don't see any overlap between Google's executive board and Robinhood, but it's a small world among power players at that level. Someone could have called in a favor (or been trying to curry one). Without more information, it's hard to say whether this was a good faith move by Google, reflexive algorithmic moderation, or another example of American extractionalism.

Please, some common sense. Google is one of the wealthist and powerful companies in the world. RH is one app out of millions in their play store. No one at Google is stupid enough to do RH a favor. It's not the first time nor the last time they do something like like this. Their tos doesn't allow rating manipulation, which clearly happened here. They don't care if it justified or not.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by propogandist »

cmdli wrote: post #16

Honest question: why does Google care here? They don't really have a stake in the GME situation, with no short or long positions (I'm assuming). They aren't that connected to Wall Street companies. Why protect Robinhood at all?

Does Robinhood run on Google Cloud? If they aren’t this could be a move to try to get them to consider switching.

Keep in mind AWS is about to take on Twitter account and they took out Parler, an up and coming competitor overnight.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Post by mulmen »

smcl wrote: post #111
mulmen wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may think reviews are calculated as: SELECT app, AVG(stars) AS display_stars FROM customer_reviews GROUP BY app; It’s actually an ML algorithm that optimizes for revenue.

There’s a way to make that point without being insulting

You're right. I made an edit to make it less insulting without otherwise rewriting history.
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