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Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#351

How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

Big money? What big money exactly? Do you really think Google care about RH and its money? They do it to prevent organized activities of rating manipulation. The RH case might be justified but Google cannot be the judge. If tomorrow the corner store across the street receives 100K reviews in 1 hour, Google would respond in a similar way.

I don't see any overlap between Google's executive board and Robinhood, but it's a small world among power players at that level. Someone could have called in a favor (or been trying to curry one).

Without more information, it's hard to say whether this was a good faith move by Google, reflexive algorithmic moderation, or another example of American extractionalism.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#353
post #53

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This reminds me of the "review bombing" debacles that have plagued Steam over recent years. Valve implemented a system to detect these patterns and discard the ratings. Valve had no particular stake in the games being "bombed", but they do have a stake in the trust people have in their platform. People want to know if a game is truly good or bad and not have to wonder if it was the victim of some kind of vendetta. At…

There is a huge difference. Review bombs are by people who usually have not played the game/app but post negative reviews on mass because of something usually unrelated to the game itself. In the case of Robinhood they are written by people upset that they have been monetarily screwed by the app. There were millions of people in WSB, 100,000 negitive reviews is only a fraction of that.

Given a lot of the comments I've seen today, I think a lot of people are upset they have been monetarily screwed, but do not actually understand the reason why they got screwed, and are just repeating stuff they've heard, regardless of its truth.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#354

How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

And the news pits us against one another because God forbid we all get along and work together. That would be the real threat.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#355
post #38

Why do people keep needing proof that big money runs everything.

Please don't post unsubstantive comments and/or flamebait to HN. We want thoughtful, information-rich, curious conversation here. This is obviously not that.

Maybe you don't owe big money which runs everything any better, but you definitely owe this community better if you're posting to it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25951489.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#356
post #230

Final edit to add: IGNORE THIS COMMENT! Nothing to see here, but I can't delete this post. tl;dr I got excited because I couldn't see the RH app returned in a play store search, even though I could see the app via a direct link. A commenter has pointed out that this is because the app isn't available where I am, in the UK. Sorry for the fuss. ---------------------------------------- I've just posted the comment below…

Some apps are region-locked. It doesn't show up in my search either, but if I manually go to its play store page [0] it states "This app is not available for your device". Blocking apps you can't use from search isn't that unexpected. [0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.robinhood....

Yes, you are right. It was pointed out to me elsewhere that it's not available in the UK, which is where I am. I was searching via desktop, and didn't get the "not available for your device" message on the app's page, but did get an "add to wishlist".

So, thanks once again. No mystery here after all :-(

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#357
post #284

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The interesting thing about this quote is that there's a decent chance it's wrong. Is there a reason to believe that half the people are below the average? (As opposed to the median.) Carlin is exposing his own ignorance of statistics with this quote. It's akin to when people criticize the grammar of others whilst making a grammatical mistake.

Mode, median, and mean are all accurately described as averaging techniques. Mean is the most commonly used average, but they are not synonymous.

Well except that outside of mathematics and statistics they quite literally are to the layman

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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I love this quote from Carlin: It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.

This is why I hate Carlin's stuff, it's so fitting for the internet tech sites because the main point of it is jeering and sneering at people who aren't you, who aren't woke. George Carlin was a Hollywood film star with a net worth in the millions if not tens of millions. He's on stage, not working a 9-5, getting you to laugh with him at all the "idiots". It's a big club and he was in it.

It's a big club and he was in it.

When he died his net worth was estimated to be around 10 million, but that came pretty late in life. For a lot of his life he was probably comfortable but far from wealthy.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I hate Carlin's stuff, it's so fitting for the internet tech sites because the main point of it is jeering and sneering at people who aren't you, who aren't woke. George Carlin was a Hollywood film star with a net worth in the millions if not tens of millions. He's on stage, not working a 9-5, getting you to laugh with him at all the "idiots". It's a big club and he was in it.

This is just an ad hominem attack. We’re better off not living in world where no one can have an opinion unless it’s on a direct, currently lived experience. That’s some identity politics nonsense.

Which hominem do you think I am attacking?

You can have any opinion you like, but if your opinion consists of passing around second hand sneers, it's a crappy low-value opinion. "It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." - "haw haw look at all the dumb sleeping people being this new". That's not an opinion, not a valuable commentary, it's just sneering.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#360
post #38

Why do people keep needing proof that big money runs everything.

It sounds conspiratorial to the average person, who isn't all that politicized or interested -- until it gets 'em. When it comes for you, it gets ya (via deplatforming or stock shennanigans or mortgage crisis bailouts or big wars and lies or whatever), and the online mainstream media Zeitgeist seems to support it, you join in on the understanding that big money corrupts and populism is worth a thought or two.

Yeah. It's always a conspiracy until it isn't.
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