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Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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post #36

How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

You may think reviews are calculated as: SELECT app, AVG(stars) AS display_stars FROM customer_reviews GROUP BY app; It’s actually an ML algorithm that optimizes for revenue.

Your bitterness robs your post of legitimacy.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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post #53
post #16

Honest question: why does Google care here? They don't really have a stake in the GME situation, with no short or long positions (I'm assuming). They aren't that connected to Wall Street companies. Why protect Robinhood at all?

This reminds me of the "review bombing" debacles that have plagued Steam over recent years. Valve implemented a system to detect these patterns and discard the ratings. Valve had no particular stake in the games being "bombed", but they do have a stake in the trust people have in their platform. People want to know if a game is truly good or bad and not have to wonder if it was the victim of some kind of vendetta. At…

Valve did that for games that had fake reviews though. Getting your margin calls discarded out of hand and preventing buys on cash accounts is not the same as a game getting poor reviews because they had a policatally charged character.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

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How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

> I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well.

It will likely end with ordinary people being really cynical about the motives of big tech, the financial services industry, the media, and the ruling class generally.

It is likely that what these entities say will be generally disbelieved, even when they are telling the truth.

Sooner or later another populist will come along who wants to shake up the system. The media industry have learnt from their promotion of Trump in 2016, and will not allow this. If necessary the ruling class will rig the election. Anyone who points out that the election was rigged will of course be deplatformed, on the pretext that they are "white supremacists" engaging in "hate speech".

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#125
post #62

How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

> it's deplatforming, using AWS as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well. This, so much - imagine you believe "they" stole the election, "they" got your favorite social media shut down (parler/gab/whatever), "they" blocked the buying of options, "they" then liquidated your position as the price predictably fail and you got margin called, you complained but "they" got your feedback deleted. Ouc…

So this is conflating some very different circumstances.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#126
post #37

How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

They'll just play themselves into regulation eventually. Once FTC comes after them the only people to blame for it are themselves.

They are clearly not afraid of regulators anymore

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#127

If someone predicted 10 years ago what Big Tech did in the last years, they would have been labeled conspiracy theorist.

If anyone predicted Trump becoming president 10 years ago, they would've been labelled a lunatic. Reality is stranger than the fiction we all live within, because fiction has the constraints of being something we can comprehend and live with. It has to be redeeming and hopeful, reality doesn't.

Well, Reagan became president back in 1981, which wasn't much different. If anything he was just an actor (before getting into politics, which is even less qualification that a salesman/real estate guy.

And, aside from spending on BS like "Star Wars" and escalating things with USSR, Reagan also established the neoliberal greedy nightmare we live in since.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#128
post #62

How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

> it's deplatforming, using AWS as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well. This, so much - imagine you believe "they" stole the election, "they" got your favorite social media shut down (parler/gab/whatever), "they" blocked the buying of options, "they" then liquidated your position as the price predictably fail and you got margin called, you complained but "they" got your feedback deleted. Ouc…

In all of these cases ‘They’ were within their rights.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#129
post #36

How were these not overall real reviews? If they can't prove otherwise, this just entrenches the idea that big money is vastly more powerful than small voices. I honestly don't see how if this trend continues how things will end well. It's not just about Robinhood, etc, it's deplatforming, using AWS, etc as a weapon against smaller voices. I can't see this ending well.

You may think reviews are calculated as: SELECT app, AVG(stars) AS display_stars FROM customer_reviews GROUP BY app; It’s actually an ML algorithm that optimizes for revenue.

Being condescending is not constructive. Can you substantiate your claim?

I'm sure that there are many tweaks to the way apps are ranked, but I would expect that the rating itself would, indeed, mostly be a star average.

Re: Robinhood Play Store listing went from 329K reviews to 180K in few hours

#130
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a few -- Glassdoor, and Google reviews let you post bad reviews of businesses even if they have tons of money. That's not to say I disagree that big money runs things, just that it's not 100%.

Entirely anecdote, but I've heard of companies asking all their employees to give them good Glassdoor reviews.

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