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Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by 974373493200 »

alangibson wrote: post #80

One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

> My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to protocols.

I hope so too and I hope that movement will develop and adopt technological solutions and not advocate for government force. This is an opportunity for people to control their means of communication and create a more robust internet that can better withstand censorship attempts in the future. I fear it will instead be taken advantage of by people who want to increase government control perhaps to prevent competition with the currently dominant actors on the market. Any further normalization of government control of communication or the internet must be resisted if we are to have any chance to keep the truly wonderful thing that the internet is today, despite all its imperfections.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by ampdepolymerase »

treeman79 wrote: post #169
alangibson wrote: post #80

One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

Maybe make Protecting free speech part our governments highest law. Maybe we could amend the law. Seriously. Lots of people love to dump on the constitution as old and not relevant. But it’s meant to restrict government and protect people’s freedom.

A better way would be to update the definition of a public square to take into account the exponential scaling offered by digital services. Communication and commerce infrastructure should not be allowed to censor the moment they cross a critical point in scale.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by dpedu »

jxf wrote: post #181

This is interesting in that it provokes the question of what an app's rating "means". Clearly, if you were getting the app because you expected to be able to trade GME and you can't, then this is a good signal not to get the app. But not all "protest votes" of this sort may be equally good signals.

Is the algorithm that does or doesn't promote apps on the app store able to differentiate between "protest votes" and "real" votes?

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by jlawson »

thisiscorrect wrote: post #252
daenz wrote: post #159

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At the risk of sounding like an "I told you so" type of person, it is frustrating to speak out and see others speak out about future consequences of these kinds of actions, only to be drowned out by people liberally applying the slippery slope fallacy argument.

I've never understood how a slippery slope argument is a fallacy, let alone a logical fallacy (like false syllogism or no true scotsman). The idea is essentially looking at current trends and extrapolating into the future. No prediction is necessarily correct, but it's not necessarily wrong either.

Everyone uses slippery slope reasoning in their personal lives, because it's a completely valid form of reasoning in the real world.

Otherwise we'd be fine with the concept of e.g. trying methamphetamine just a few times and then planning to stop.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by asenna »

balls187 wrote: post #417
alangibson wrote: post #80

One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

I just ran through a thought experiment--if Google (gmail) Apple (my phone) and Tmobile (the current owners of my number) all simultaneously nuked me, could I recover? Luckily yes. Online access would be hindered, but nearly all my financial resources are handled through a local credit union.

Even better - having savings in a crypto hardware wallet :)

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by vga805 »

Majromax wrote: post #436
vga805 wrote: post #410

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Wrong. The bull case was made for GME as far back as late 2019, and it gained momentum this year. Nothing different than Jim Cramer talking up a stock on CNBC every fucking night. Edit: I know this because I watched a youtube video from a popular redditor named deepfuckingvalue a few weeks ago and bought into the thesis fully as a value investment. He goes under the name RoaringKitty on youtube. I lost multiple years…

> Wrong. The bull case was made for GME as far back as late 2019, and it gained momentum this year. That argument was made last year and early this year. The argument this week has been that the stock price will increase specifically because of a short squeeze, and the popular comment on WSB has been that buying and/or holding GME stock is a rebellious act that will cause that short squeeze to happen. If deliberately…

So what? I know it's a highly speculative move. I know it's absurd to buy this stock at this price. But we should be allowed to. (Obviously not on margin).

I don't really think the market should allow for this sort of thing. I agree with you there. But that's how the rules are written, and now when the little guy figures out the rules they shut it down.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by ashtonkem »

slg wrote: post #314
worik wrote: post #291

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Please do not use the word "anarchy" as a synonym for "chaos". Anarchy is the opposite of chaos

What distinction are you trying to make here? A completely open protocol with no single controlling entity would not be inherently beholden to government control or laws like a platform would be. It can result in the distribution of illegal content such as child porn. How is this not an example of potential anarchy?

Anarchists as a political group usually don't like it when anarchy is compared to chaos, as this is usually a comparison that was formed by their ideological opponents.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by Igelau »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #412
root_axis wrote: post #362

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That's like saying virginity is a fetish. Atheism is not a religion, it's a lack of belief in a supernatural deity.

It's belief in the lack of a supernatural deity. Subtle difference, as required by the topic.

That doesn't quite work.

I'm not a stamp collector. Does that mean I lack a stamp collection, or do I have a collection of a lack of stamps?

If I am asymptomatic, is there a lack of symptoms, or is my symptom the lack thereof?

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by postsantum »

marcinzm wrote: post #139
jb775 wrote: post #50

Serious question: Since RobinHood is a private company, does the "if you don't like it, you can build your own platform" argument apply here? Or does that only apply selectively when it benefits partisan politics? This is the natural evolution when censorship as we've recently seen is given a pass.

Robinhood can do whatever it wants and people can in response give it a 1 star rating. They can also complain about it not being a good platform to use. Freedom goes both ways. You can also complain about Twitter or give its app a low rating or just stop using it.

Technically, anyone can do whatever they want but go to jail later

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by ashtonkem »

karlmcguire wrote: post #132
ashtonkem wrote: post #130

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Anti-trust law is a far cleaner way to approach that, with far fewer unintended consequences.

Yea, because that's been working great thus far.

"The government has been unwilling to use existing powers against powerful corporations, maybe if we give them new and more expansive powers that'll do the trick. There's no possible way that these new powers will be turned against the powerless, right?"
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