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Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

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Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

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This feels like RH is going to go under if they don’t make this move? Are they holding a lot of risk by not doing this or something? And what repercussions would they face, surely they’ve flagged that risk and are doing it anyway.

Doing this will already probably kill them, so they must be afraid of worse. Who would remmain using them after this?

I will bet you anything this will actually help them overall.

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

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post #112

Yeah, brokerages will do that if the stock takes a big drop like it did today. Oh, did you not read that part of your margin agreement? According to thread, some are just now getting to that part. Those same folks shouldn't have been trading GME on margin. If it's any consolation, I've had Fidelity, IB, et. al., do the exact same thing when a trade turned sour. Difference is, I didn't run to Reddit to display my igno…

I honestly didn't read the agreements on Robinhood. Before you call me stupid or irresponsible, I'm going to say practically no one reads these agreements, and even fewer understand them. The NYT a few days ago had an opinion piece on how no one reads the TOS for things like this. A very choice line: > A 2012 Carnegie Mellon study found that the average American would have to devote 76 work days just to read over tec…

Yes. Is that one way of describing the "find a bigger fool" strategy of investing?

Is that the purpose of these apps? To get uninformed liquidity into the market to benefit investment banks?

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#135

Smelled like scam, is a scam. So glad I didn't fall into the robinhood trap, I was really close to. Edit: yes this comment isn't related to the linked article.

You should really read up on finance before making any of these decisions. It's no scam, it's margin.

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#136
post #112

Yeah, brokerages will do that if the stock takes a big drop like it did today. Oh, did you not read that part of your margin agreement? According to thread, some are just now getting to that part. Those same folks shouldn't have been trading GME on margin. If it's any consolation, I've had Fidelity, IB, et. al., do the exact same thing when a trade turned sour. Difference is, I didn't run to Reddit to display my igno…

I honestly didn't read the agreements on Robinhood. Before you call me stupid or irresponsible, I'm going to say practically no one reads these agreements, and even fewer understand them. The NYT a few days ago had an opinion piece on how no one reads the TOS for things like this. A very choice line: > A 2012 Carnegie Mellon study found that the average American would have to devote 76 work days just to read over tec…

> practically no one reads these agreements, and even fewer understand them

Argumentum ad populum. Not very convincing.

There is a reason the finance industry is so heavily regulated, and, at least in terms of intent, it is not to allow the elites to hoard all of the capital (although that may be a side effect).

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#137
post #133

The idiotic takes on this GME situation are beyond belief. What did people think was going to happen? GME goes to a million and everyone becomes a millionaire?

Hey, it worked for Bitcoin. I never expected that. I thought Bitcoin was overpriced at US$20.

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference here is they prevented people from starting new positions while still allowing closing them .. effectivly being the cause of the drop.

> cause of the drop Not sure I understand this perspective. GME was a balloon floating around in a needle shop.

I would think thats the obvious thing to happen when supply outweigh demand

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#139
post #112

Yeah, brokerages will do that if the stock takes a big drop like it did today. Oh, did you not read that part of your margin agreement? According to thread, some are just now getting to that part. Those same folks shouldn't have been trading GME on margin. If it's any consolation, I've had Fidelity, IB, et. al., do the exact same thing when a trade turned sour. Difference is, I didn't run to Reddit to display my igno…

I honestly didn't read the agreements on Robinhood. Before you call me stupid or irresponsible, I'm going to say practically no one reads these agreements, and even fewer understand them. The NYT a few days ago had an opinion piece on how no one reads the TOS for things like this. A very choice line: > A 2012 Carnegie Mellon study found that the average American would have to devote 76 work days just to read over tec…

>When I bought my house, the attorneys sat down with me and had me read through and explained to me every single term of the purchase agreement and my mortgage, checking that I understood them. Absolutely no one has done this for Facebook, throwing a few hundred into Robinhood, etc. It's not worth it, and the terms change with such frequency that it would be outdated immediately.

I still have my binder from my closing. Worked in the mortgage industry for a while in college. If they truly had you read through every page with explanations it would have taken you multiple days to do your closing. I think you're misremembering.

What they likely did was went through page by page, giving you a summary of each page as they went, and gave you the option to read it in its entirety or just sign based on their summary. You might have read through the first 4 pages before you realized you would be there for the aforementioned multiple days if you wanted to read through every line of every page.

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#140

This is probably legit, unlike delisting it. You are taking a loan from them with the understanding that they can (in some circumstances) liquidate your investment to lower their own risk. This absolutely seems like one of those circumstances.

A margin call on a stock you halted trading in smells like fraud. It’s like the bank banning selling your home then repossessing it when the value falls. Crooked entirely.

I'm ignorant. In your example, the bank manipulated the housing price and now owns the house, earning them an asset. The the Robinhood example, they (maybe) manipulated the price, and then forced you to sell, so you now have the money. They don't now own the proceeds from the sale (except what you already owed them). These don't seem similar.
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