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Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

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Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#31

I saw this on Twitter and couldn't find any sources to confirm that the e-mail screenshot is real. Take this with a pinch of salt, it might be fake.

Blue checkmarks seem to confirm this:

https://twitter.com/dreamwisp/status/1354865709998723072

edit: My bad, it's "just" cancelling their orders, not selling anything on their behalf.

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#33
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> due to the unreasonable risk involved in brokering your position, we have closed your X shares of GME for an average price of Y What in the world?? "In order to protect you from yourself, we have taken away your free will. Thanks!"

Where does tat say "to protect you from yourself"? Reads to me a lot more as "since brokering your position is an unreasonable risk to us, we stop doing so" (and the right to do so is likely lined out in their ToS)

Could you expand on what the risk to Robinhood is here? From what I understand, users purchased stock for money. What is Robinhood holding here that can create risk for them?

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#34
post #3

Most likely margin calls.

Will repeat what I said above: This morning Robinhood conspired with Citadel to halt trading amid a short ladder sell to drive the price lower, allowing shorts to cover their losses with no competition. This is blatant market manipulation and anti competitive behavior, and must be stopped. Why does everyone insist on protecting billionaires who insist on playing the game with a different set of rules than the rest of…

> This morning Robinhood conspired with Citadel to halt trading

Do you have evidence that happened, or are you arguing from pure cui bono circumstantiality?

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#35
post #7

Browing the top of reddit right now is really reminiscent of /r/The_Donald, particularly the shift from a bunch of 'ironic' jokers to conspiracy theories and shouty chest beating and calls for upvotes. I'd treat anything like this with a huge pinch of salt.

In the words of Agent Kay from MiB "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#36
13G recently filed shows larger holders liquidating -- couple that to the crap financials in GME, then you can see the writing on the wall. However, insiders will be roasted by the DOJ.

Liquidate, restructure, hose commons.

It's GME -- it's a dead company trapped in yesteryear.

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#37
post #22

This feels like RH is going to go under if they don’t make this move? Are they holding a lot of risk by not doing this or something? And what repercussions would they face, surely they’ve flagged that risk and are doing it anyway.

Doing this will already probably kill them, so they must be afraid of worse. Who would remmain using them after this?

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#38
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Most likely margin calls.

Yep. I’ll repeat what I said in another thread: It’s really kind of ironic. People are knee-jerk blaming RH for closing margin positions because they didn’t fully understand how they work and the risks involved. Simultaneously, the same people are blaming RH for stepping in the way of what very certainly would have turned into a bad trade for a lot of people. I don’t take RH’s side but it’s hard to see a winning play…

Nonsense. People are allowed to make bad trades every second of every day without protection from the platform; but now they develop a conscience and save people from themselves? If this is true, RH and other platforms pulling smiliar stunts should be sued out of existence. Might not be a bad idea to significantly increase taxation on derivatives trading too.

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#39

Robinhood's behavior here is wicked and wrong. Yes, Robinhood's EULA technically allows them to do this wicked thing. The same EULA says that Robinhood can't be sued over it or anything else. It's about time we talk about how it's not in the public's interest to allow companies to put arbitrarily user-hostile terms in their user agreements.

The challenge in this case is that many people want this. They see it as only fair that the little guy should be allowed to invest on the same (sometimes user-hostile) terms as big institutions do. If you pass a new regulation saying that margin calls feel scummy so nobody can offer small investors a margin account, is that really a win for small investors?

Re: Robinhood is automatically initiating GME sell orders on users' behalf

#40
Sounds like a margin call [0] which is absolutely “business as usual” and not something to be upset over.

Some of the margin calls may have been triggered earlier than investors may have anticipated given that (I believe) Robinhood recently adjusted their margin requirements for GME. (It’s also normal for brokers to raise margin requirements on particularly risky stocks, which GME clearly is at the moment)

[0] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/margincall.asp

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