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Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by majormajor »

echelon wrote: post #163
alangibson wrote: post #80

One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

Every time I mention this on Hacker News, I get downvoted by the neoliberal fascists that want to suppress the speech they feel comfortable with silencing. Free speech is only free if we allow all of it. Americans have thick skin. It's in our culture. We've accomplished so much in spite of internal disagreement and oppression: voting rights, women's rights, gay marriage (which still isn't enshrined in the constitutio…

> Americans have thick skin. It's in our culture.

This really doesn't track historically. Lots of voices have been historically silenced by American majorities because of hurt feelings or "decency."

It's also worth noting that America hasn't been uniformly ahead of the curve in terms of granting rights to those that were originally denied. Probably the worst example is getting rid of slavery, which was far more bloody than in many other places. In some other areas we've been ahead of the curve, in some behind. But note that some of that also came from the courts in controversial ways. The first amendment has not correlated to a better track record at granting groups their rights.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by greesil »

echelon wrote: post #163
alangibson wrote: post #80

One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

Every time I mention this on Hacker News, I get downvoted by the neoliberal fascists that want to suppress the speech they feel comfortable with silencing. Free speech is only free if we allow all of it. Americans have thick skin. It's in our culture. We've accomplished so much in spite of internal disagreement and oppression: voting rights, women's rights, gay marriage (which still isn't enshrined in the constitutio…

Please also note that people from many countries participate here. I suspect they may also listen to people they disagree with.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by alangibson »

echelon wrote: post #163
alangibson wrote: post #80

One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

Every time I mention this on Hacker News, I get downvoted by the neoliberal fascists that want to suppress the speech they feel comfortable with silencing. Free speech is only free if we allow all of it. Americans have thick skin. It's in our culture. We've accomplished so much in spite of internal disagreement and oppression: voting rights, women's rights, gay marriage (which still isn't enshrined in the constitutio…

I actually agree with your premise, but I don't want to listen to you when you use self contradictory phrases like 'neoliberal fascists'. I imagine I'm not alone. You're getting downvoted because you sound incoherent and unhinged.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by ziftface »

ckastner wrote: post #119
ketzo wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe an app committed a sudden, devastating action against all of its users. That would be worth warning potential downloaders about, no?

That (and the related sibling's comments) is a fair argument, but admittedly not what thought when I first pictured the term "mobbing". For anyone actually affected by Robinhood, I think leaving 1-star rating it is absolutely just. However, mobbing , to me, is when the random internet gets out its pitchforks and finds something to dogpile on, even though they might not have been affected personally.

I believe half of Robinhood customers own GME, so it isn't at all unreasonable for all of those reviews to be disgruntled users.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by ckastner »

happytoexplain wrote: post #133
ckastner wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That (and the related sibling's comments) is a fair argument, but admittedly not what thought when I first pictured the term "mobbing". For anyone actually affected by Robinhood, I think leaving 1-star rating it is absolutely just. However, mobbing , to me, is when the random internet gets out its pitchforks and finds something to dogpile on, even though they might not have been affected personally.

>even though they might not have been affected personally It's unrealistic to imply that people shouldn't share opinions of behavior if they weren't directly and personally affected by that behavior. You're also making a large assumption that cases you would define as "mobbing" consist of a significant portion of people unaffected.

> It's unrealistic to imply that people shouldn't share opinions of behavior if they weren't directly and personally affected by that behavior.

The thing about opinions nowadays is that they are manipulated right and left. It has become absolutely trivial to whip up a mob into a frenzy.

This isn't to say that any concerted movement against something one was not personally affected by is illegitimate. Clearly, one does not need to be a person of color to support BLM.

My question regarding the mobbing prevention was in the spirit of the first form.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by throwaway2381 »

theptip wrote: post #174
echelon wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I mention this on Hacker News, I get downvoted by the neoliberal fascists that want to suppress the speech they feel comfortable with silencing. Free speech is only free if we allow all of it. Americans have thick skin. It's in our culture. We've accomplished so much in spite of internal disagreement and oppression: voting rights, women's rights, gay marriage (which still isn't enshrined in the constitutio…

> I get downvoted by the neoliberal fascists You might get fewer downvotes if you followed the HN rules, particularly "be nice". Also, in polite conversation, preemptively calling your fellow conversation partners fascists is a good way to get off on the wrong foot.

While I agree with your main point re name calling, it's absolutely not true that you get fewer downvotes if you follow HN's written rules. There are also unwritten groupthink (for lack of a better phrase) rules for which you _will_ get downvoted for. I don't have many controversial opinions but sometimes they are outside the generally accepted "truths".

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by forbiddenvoid »

adrr wrote: post #91
MPSimmons wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they keep selling people's stocks without their consent, then yeah, I'm pretty sure it'll stay until RH can buy better reviews. [edit] though there are some reports that the stocks were bought on margin, which makes it more(?) okay, I guess?

Margin accounts have capital requirements. If you’re over leveraged, they will liquidate your positions to ensure you have capital. This is standard. If people didn’t know about this, they have no business with a margin account.

1. Robinhood accounts are all margin by default. Most novice investors don't know the difference. They should, but I would wager Robinhood doesn't spend a lot of time educating people about this.

2. Long positions (buying and holding stock) aren't leveraged. There is no capital risk to holding a stock. If the sales of GME are entirely based on other positions being underwater, then sure, but it seems at least some of the examples provided aren't in that situation.

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Post by ska »

echelon wrote: post #163
alangibson wrote: post #80

One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

Every time I mention this on Hacker News, I get downvoted by the neoliberal fascists that want to suppress the speech they feel comfortable with silencing. Free speech is only free if we allow all of it. Americans have thick skin. It's in our culture. We've accomplished so much in spite of internal disagreement and oppression: voting rights, women's rights, gay marriage (which still isn't enshrined in the constitutio…

I've seen the essence of this opinion posted by others without downvoting.

Have you considered the votes are less to do with the opinion than your choices in communicating it?

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by kibwen »

linksen wrote: post #114
_jal wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The source is their need to belong to a group that treats asserting a belief in this horse shit an in-group shibboleth. Much like religious groups that use exposure to non-believers as ways to discourage defection, ridicule from outsiders helps keep them in the fold.

The source was provided with links to the web archive. Please tell me how it is wrong.

Youtube routinely scrubs views, likes, and dislikes from videos based on attempts to discern if they're fraudulent. You can't believe that this is evidence that Youtube is conspiring to support Biden unless you also believe that Youtube is conspiring to suppress BTS, the famous K-Pop boy band: https://www.quora.com/Why-did-YouTube-delete-views-from-BTS-...
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