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Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by donmcronald »

roblabla wrote: post #92
laughingpine wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been using it since 2016, and I would say the advantages are mostly related to their DevOps features - there are integrations with k8s, SentryIO, and Prometheus to help you with operations. Their CI/CD pipelines also seem a bit more refined than GitHub actions - maybe it is just a maturity thing though? That could also just be my inexperience with GitHub Actions. I think there are also some project management differe…

> Their CI/CD pipelines also seem a bit more refined than GitHub actions - maybe it is just a maturity thing though? That could also just be my inexperience with GitHub Actions. My experience with CI/CD is that github action's is stellar, while gitlab-ci is a huge mess of features that don't compose well. For instance, in gitlab-ci, you can specify that the job should only run when a specific file changes with `only:…

I always wonder how YAML became so popular for build systems. It’s like having a really, really crappy programming language for config.

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Post by granshaw »

loceng wrote: post #31
cwhiz wrote: post #9

Wow. Almost feels like a bait and switch. GitLab is now completely uncompetitive with GitHub in terms of price structure. 4-5x on monthly cost.

Hasn't Gitlab just been a copying Github machine too from the start? I don't mean to start a fight but I've only ever seen praise from its launch as a wanted competitor, but no one seems to have mentioned the obvious? I know git wasn't invented by Github but from what I remember Github was a pretty clear roadmap for Gitlab.

Used git lab for the first time today and was shocked at how closely the ui resembled github’s - seemed like the exact same layout with the same buttons and content in the same places

I don’t see that level of carbon copying in Saas very often

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by nine_k »

FreeFull wrote: post #72
bearjaws wrote: post #69

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You get way more than LDAP connectivity...

Doesn't matter that you get more if you don't make use of it anyway.

Plain LDAP auth is free. Advanced features that a big company might need are $240. Fine by me.

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Post by throw2838 »

gpm wrote: post #74
throw2838 wrote: post #60

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Sounds like good side business idea. Good engineer could create it over weekend, than sell licenses and do support.

Seems somewhat unethical IMO (admittedly I'm not sure I can fully justify this feeling), and most good software engineers are paid enough to be able to be fairly ethical, but yes.

Why unethical? Person has obligations to themselfs and their family, not to some corporation they do not even work for.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by MikusR »

sytse wrote: post #33
the-dude wrote: post #28

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I wonder if there will be the notable absence of the CEO in this thread too. That is remarkable.

We have an entire team of people responding on social and I wanted them to be the DRI https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-group/directly-resp... I think the blog post with me as the author https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/01/26/new-gitlab-product-... and the FAQ https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/faq-new-product-subscriptio... answer most questions. But happy to answer any other questions.

Those not-listening spambots in the other thread were actual people?

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Post by the-dude »

MikusR wrote: post #106
sytse wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have an entire team of people responding on social and I wanted them to be the DRI https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-group/directly-resp... I think the blog post with me as the author https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/01/26/new-gitlab-product-... and the FAQ https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/faq-new-product-subscriptio... answer most questions. But happy to answer any other questions.

Those not-listening spambots in the other thread were actual people?

This thread was not engaged with at all and quickly marked as a dupe, although technically it is not if I am not mistaken.

Buried if you will. As if they knew.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by gpm »

throw2838 wrote: post #105
gpm wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems somewhat unethical IMO (admittedly I'm not sure I can fully justify this feeling), and most good software engineers are paid enough to be able to be fairly ethical, but yes.

Why unethical? Person has obligations to themselfs and their family, not to some corporation they do not even work for.

I don't have a firm answer to this, it's more of a feeling that "this is wrong", but here are some possible arguments. I'm not sure they are the best possible arguments, but they're a quick first pass at making the argument.

It is good for society as a whole if people release their work publicly/open source. People will only release their work publicly/open source if it doesn't substantially hurt their potential earnings. So it's best to avoid taking advantage of publicly released work in ways that hurts their earnings (all else being equal).

Profit should go to the person who did the work making something. In this case gitlab did the work, and the person adding ldap here is almost entirely freeloading off of their work to make a profit. That isn't fair - especially when the freeloader has a direct negative impact on gitlab's earnings.

The person adding ldap support is not doing useful work for society, rather they are just doing busy work to redirect a stream of money towards them, that's not good.

And to add to all of these - the person doing this work is a competent engineer. They have lots of other ways to make money that are perfectly ethical, they do not need to resort to this.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by Jkvngt »

RantyDave wrote: post #50
Jkvngt wrote: post #45

Is it really so difficult for a company to buy one (1) ten year old mid-spec server to do SCM? It's all you'd need even for dozens of users.

It's all the claptrap around it that's the hard part. Bug tracking, wikis, authentication, permissions, ci/cd etc. etc.

Multiply $240 times the amount of coders and you'll see if setting up all that claptrap one time's worth it.
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