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Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

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Can someone help me understand Robinhood's POV? This just seems so outrageous that there must be some sane rationale that I'm not seeing. Why do Robinhood, Reddit, Discord, etc feel like they have to respond to this? Whether the investments being made are responsible or not, it doesn't seem like it should be their place to intervene. If the hedge funds over-shorted GME and WSB recognized that and traded against that…

> Can someone help me understand Robinhood's POV? Robinhood is a margin-lending options-trading broker. If a customer falls down on a trade, it is ultimately liable. If a retail customer loses money and makes a FINRA complaint that Robinhood induced them to buy through its gameified interface, it is liable. Risk and compliance likely made this call. Also, Robinhood makes its revenue from market makers. They are the c…

You could also imagine that they have concern about the volume causing issues on their servers. A literal thundering herd might mean owners of GME can't sell during the collapse which would put robinhood in a bad situation

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

#522

Ah cool so does this mean that all the other stocks are safe and will only make me money? Very cool of Robin Hood to protect me from ever being exposed to any risk like this. It’s just really cool to know that they remove the ones that can lose me money.

Very cool of robinhood to protect me by tanking my stock position simply because it’s as odds with their wallet. What a fucking sham of a company and if there isn’t some serious legal repercussions of it, then I don’t know what even would qualify as “market manipulation”.

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

#523
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Sure. Robinhood got a call from someone very powerful in their circle, politely asking them to stop the amateur plebes from interfering with their professional market manipulation. We are taking about people commanding titanic amounts of capital and (indirect) regulatory power. Robinhood then had the choice, do we make enemies out of these people or do we just screw, er, I mean protect, our customers? Unburdened by a…

Source?

https://cdn.robinhood.com/assets/robinhood/legal/RHS%20SEC%2...

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

#524

Not a fan of the Reddit wsb movement but not sure this is a justified move by Robinhood. You gotta let things play out by the rules of the game

This move by RH is changing the rules of the game

Not just a rules change, I’m pretty sure an illegal rules change. Volume manipulation is stock manipulation according to the SEC.

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

#525
Hacker news often gets very skeptical about blockchain-related projects. But I think Uniswap and similar "automatic market makers" are showing us a glimpse of how things will work. It's an unstoppable exchange with no middlemen. Anybody can access, anybody can trade, anybody can pool their money to facilitate these trades and nobody can say "no, you cannot".

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

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post #158

Can someone help me understand Robinhood's POV? This just seems so outrageous that there must be some sane rationale that I'm not seeing. Why do Robinhood, Reddit, Discord, etc feel like they have to respond to this? Whether the investments being made are responsible or not, it doesn't seem like it should be their place to intervene. If the hedge funds over-shorted GME and WSB recognized that and traded against that…

From Schawb “It is not uncommon for us to place restrictions on some transactions in certain securities in the interest of helping mitigate risk for our clients,” from Massachusetts secretary of the commonwealth “It is very clear to anyone looking at the numbers that the whole marketplace is being manipulated here,” he said. I imagine Robinhood's thinking is similar

Apparently Citadel is in bed with Schwab/Ameritrade, too, who also halted trading:

"The Verge meanwhile noted one hedge fund suffering amid the GameStop surge was Melvin Capital Management, which another hedge fund, Citadel, has since bailed out. Citadel's founder is Ken Griffin, who also founded Citadel Securities, a big investor in Robinhood that also works with TD Ameritrade and Charles Schwab."

I suspect they sell them the trading data just like Robinhood does, to help them front-running the retail traders.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/963627/robinhood-halts-tradin...

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

#527
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post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From Schawb “It is not uncommon for us to place restrictions on some transactions in certain securities in the interest of helping mitigate risk for our clients,” from Massachusetts secretary of the commonwealth “It is very clear to anyone looking at the numbers that the whole marketplace is being manipulated here,” he said. I imagine Robinhood's thinking is similar

I think you're entirely right, but Citadel is the customer Robinhood is protecting. The retail investors are the product.

Yes its why Robin hood is "free" but people are ignoring that maybe

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

#529
post #158

Can someone help me understand Robinhood's POV? This just seems so outrageous that there must be some sane rationale that I'm not seeing. Why do Robinhood, Reddit, Discord, etc feel like they have to respond to this? Whether the investments being made are responsible or not, it doesn't seem like it should be their place to intervene. If the hedge funds over-shorted GME and WSB recognized that and traded against that…

From Schawb “It is not uncommon for us to place restrictions on some transactions in certain securities in the interest of helping mitigate risk for our clients,” from Massachusetts secretary of the commonwealth “It is very clear to anyone looking at the numbers that the whole marketplace is being manipulated here,” he said. I imagine Robinhood's thinking is similar

They can halt trading of the stock all they want. All exchanges do [0]

But the crazy part is that they only halted one side of the trade... the buy orders. That is manipulation.

Personally, this cost me £1k on Nokia. I went from +£700 to -£1000 over the course of about 30 mins, because the market was pulled from under me.

[0] https://www.nyse.com/trade-halt-current

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