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White House YouTube Dislike Manipulation

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Re: White House YouTube Dislike Manipulation

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what would someone get out of paying ppl to dislike whitehouse videos ?

> But what would someone get out of paying ppl to dislike whitehouse videos ? Propaganda.

But how do you know this is happening for this video though?

OPs original assertion was that this has ' innocent explanations.'

Indian sweatshops, contest sites to spread political propaganda ect are conspiracy theories with no proof, far from 'innocent explanations'

Re: White House YouTube Dislike Manipulation

#32
post #6

It seems obvious there would be plenty of "legitimate" dislikes coming, as probably a lot of people who followed this YouTube channel in the past 4 years were Trump supporters, and now the channel features Biden. Trump supporters still subscribed would dislike this content. I wonder if the same happened at the last transition.

> It seems obvious there would be plenty of "legitimate" dislikes coming, as probably a lot of people who followed this YouTube channel in the past 4 years were Trump supporters, and now the channel features Biden. Trump supporters still subscribed would dislike this content. I wonder if the same happened at the last transition.

I don't know about YouTube, but I've read that the 2017 transition and the 2021 transitions were different on Twitter:

2017: Obama's institutional twitter accounts (e.g. @POTUS) were archived, but Trump inherited the followers in his new @POTUS account.

2021: Trump's @POTUS was archived, but Biden's new @POTUS didn't inherit Trump's (and Obama's) followers. He had to start from scratch.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/19/technology/biden-white-ho...

Re: White House YouTube Dislike Manipulation

#33
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But what would someone get out of paying ppl to dislike whitehouse videos ? Propaganda.

But how do you know this is happening for this video though? OPs original assertion was that this has ' innocent explanations.' Indian sweatshops, contest sites to spread political propaganda ect are conspiracy theories with no proof, far from 'innocent explanations'

>>> But what would someone get out of paying ppl to dislike whitehouse videos ?

>> Propaganda.

> But how do you know this is happening for this video though?

It's still the answer to the question you asked, whether it's actually happening or not.

Re: White House YouTube Dislike Manipulation

#34
Other comments here have pointed out that the drop is likely due to a periodic cleaning of bot votes, against the blog author's premature, sarcastic insinuation that some nefarious manipulation is being performed at YT (there is, but it's not nefarious but to combat third-party manipulation that misleads the user and abuses the platform).

Perhaps it is also of note that the author performs a naive analysis of limited climate data in a linked post to draw a conclusion against climate change.

Re: White House YouTube Dislike Manipulation

#35
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how do you know this is happening for this video though? OPs original assertion was that this has ' innocent explanations.' Indian sweatshops, contest sites to spread political propaganda ect are conspiracy theories with no proof, far from 'innocent explanations'

>>> But what would someone get out of paying ppl to dislike whitehouse videos ? >> Propaganda. > But how do you know this is happening for this video though? It's still the answer to the question you asked, whether it's actually happening or not.

Ah yes you are right. You were responding to my question.

I had all the replies mixed up.

Re: White House YouTube Dislike Manipulation

#36

This website also contains climate change denial and scare quotes around the word scientist. We should be more skeptical of sites like this.

Examples?

https://phzoe.com/2020/03/04/dumbest-math-theory-ever/

https://phzoe.com/2020/10/05/geothermal-to-the-moon/

https://phzoe.com/2020/02/20/two-theories-one-ideological-ot...

There are may others. It's all over the place. The author denies the Stefan–Boltzmann law that contradicts her model meant to prove most heating is due to geothermal. She also does not believe in Fusion within the Sun, or that photon are particles (only waves, which is linked to the thermal radiation denial).

Additionally, the author mocks and attacks anyone contradicting her in the comments. Her argumentation revolves around throwing new theories after new theories that could help explain her impossible results, expecting others to provide the contradiction.

All-around extremely exhausting to argue with, bad faith, aggressive and ideologically driven.

Amidst all this, many election fraud allegations on the blog, beyond the subtext implying manipulation in this post article.

Re: White House YouTube Dislike Manipulation

#37
post #4

The article implies something nefarious going on here, but there are plenty of entirely rational innocent explanations. i.e. the videos are attracting a large quantity of spam dislikes, and YouTube is bulk-removing them.

> the videos are attracting a large quantity of spam dislikes

Prior to the bulk-removal the dislikes are tracking the views; the dislike growth curve is a close function of the view count curve. That is unlikely to happen if the dislikes are bulk spam.

We'll be told it's 'spam' or 'bots', and Youtube will rely on this as the plausible explanation should they bother to address it at all, but the inconvenient truth is that the most likely explanation for the dislikes is viewers. Otherwise one must posit a sophisticated spammer that is carefully tailoring their dislikes to camouflage their activity.

I suspect the only meaningful response we'll get is a throttling of the API used to do the analysis.

Re: White House YouTube Dislike Manipulation

#38
The videos all seem to have far more dislikes than likes (very different from the article).

They actually seem to be quite aggressively disliked, disproportionately from standard polling anyway. Maybe there is something nefarious happening, but not at YouTube.

Re: White House YouTube Dislike Manipulation

#40
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Examples?

https://phzoe.com/2020/03/04/dumbest-math-theory-ever/ https://phzoe.com/2020/10/05/geothermal-to-the-moon/ https://phzoe.com/2020/02/20/two-theories-one-ideological-ot... There are may others. It's all over the place. The author denies the Stefan–Boltzmann law that contradicts her model meant to prove most heating is due to geothermal. She also does not believe in Fusion within the Sun, or that photon are particles…

Thanks and fair enough.
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