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Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

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This sort of stuff will put people more and more on edge, there is the deplatforming going on, people asserted their power financially, and now getting that removed too, the powers that rule USA don't realize that soon the only tool left to common people is violence? Even more with some irresponsible newspapers blaming the whole thing on GamerGate and Alt-Right, effectively pushing away people that previously could b…

Its called "RedPilling".

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

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post #9

This sort of stuff will put people more and more on edge, there is the deplatforming going on, people asserted their power financially, and now getting that removed too, the powers that rule USA don't realize that soon the only tool left to common people is violence? Even more with some irresponsible newspapers blaming the whole thing on GamerGate and Alt-Right, effectively pushing away people that previously could b…

If I were running a financial brokerage I'd totally do this, too. It's not a matter of "helping my hedge fund broker friends", it's a matter of "how do we keep the SEC off our backs". Remember: Robinhood is already being charged with securities law violation for giving their customers a raw deal on order execution. We usually don't see distributed market manipulation like this, but I wouldn't be surprised if a shitto…

I'm still shit at these things, but so far, I seriously cannot understand how hedge funds get away with "shorting", but people doing the same thing in reverse is market manipulation. From this (admittedly naive) POV, this sounds like double standards.

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

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post #136
post #9

This sort of stuff will put people more and more on edge, there is the deplatforming going on, people asserted their power financially, and now getting that removed too, the powers that rule USA don't realize that soon the only tool left to common people is violence? Even more with some irresponsible newspapers blaming the whole thing on GamerGate and Alt-Right, effectively pushing away people that previously could b…

> the powers that rule USA don't realize that soon the only tool left to common people is violence? Do you honestly believe this? Somehow we'll go from not being able to buy certain stocks to violence? Banning collecting rain water on your own property didn't do it. Abject failure of politicians keeping drinking water clean didn't do it? Not being able to buy cheese from unpasteurized milk didn't do it. Can't grow a…

I do agree with you when it comes to the surface level idea of buying a particular stock. However, the fight here isnt about that. This is a fight between the public mixed with low level capitalist (sub 8 digit yearly earnings) and the billionaire well... oligarchy of hedge funds. The hedge funds are putting pressure on gov and media to stop allowing the general public from doing something. This was originally a fight to screw over a hedge fund that was picking on Gamestop to bankrupt them through predatory short selling. Its blown up to now the hedge funds trying to manipulate public discourse, media discourse and the public's ability to participate in the market. Originally, capitalism is about anyone has the ability to participate in business and the market equally, regardless of their family lineage or social class. Obviously reality is messier than theory, but you no longer need to have a royal family name to own land or start a business. Hedge funds, banks and others are trying to accomplish the same old, "kiss my ring", just with slightly different tactics.

It's a fun show regardless.

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

#254
post #9

This sort of stuff will put people more and more on edge, there is the deplatforming going on, people asserted their power financially, and now getting that removed too, the powers that rule USA don't realize that soon the only tool left to common people is violence? Even more with some irresponsible newspapers blaming the whole thing on GamerGate and Alt-Right, effectively pushing away people that previously could b…

Serious question. Is the whole David vs Goliath narrative unfounded?

Over the last 8-10 years online activism/mobs have increasingly been co-opted by those in power as a means of astroturfing. I think it is totally fair to be skeptical and ask whether that is going on here.

One thing is for sure. Even if this is organic, it won’t be next time. After seeing this why wouldn’t some hedge fund orchestrate something like this to manipulate the market?

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

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If I were running a financial brokerage I'd totally do this, too. It's not a matter of "helping my hedge fund broker friends", it's a matter of "how do we keep the SEC off our backs". Remember: Robinhood is already being charged with securities law violation for giving their customers a raw deal on order execution. We usually don't see distributed market manipulation like this, but I wouldn't be surprised if a shitto…

It's not only that - the current price of AMC, GME, etc... are being manipulated artificially. This is text-book illegal activity. There is no logical derivation of GameStop's financial books that would warrant the kind of stock price it has. It is very very clearly market manipulation, and these exact sorts of manipulations are commonly prosecuted.

If you're able to rally people on social media is that manipulation? I'm not so sure.

I think it's very risky for the investors but I don't know whether the SEC has stuff that would cover this.

And even if there were a law, if you somehow have your thumb on the social media hype button then how would you enforce that law? Makes me think nothing unruly is going on, just a bubble that will inevitably collapse and make Musk etc. rich once more just like during the dot com era. Some people only know how to make money through theft and I'm not surprised we've found ourselves here after the last 4 years.

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

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post #205

This is unbelievable. If there ever was a time to be outraged. This is naked corruption as usual hiding under the shabbiest veil of virtue. RobinHood traders can bankrupt and kill themselves, and that is fine, we will continue prodding them to trade more often, but once we get a call from one our hedge fund buddies, moaning about the rubes stopping him from raping another company, we will shut the rabble down.

It could also be RobinHood trying to avoid their traders bankrupting and killing themselves by restricting them from buying gamestop etc. shares at 10x what they are worth.

That's indeed what they are claiming but it's pretty clearly just the easiest excuse they can give no matter the reason. Similar to how it's the easiest reason for discord to say they are banning wsb because of bad language.

https://blog.robinhood.com/news/2021/1/28/keeping-customers-...

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

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> the powers that rule USA don't realize that soon the only tool left to common people is violence? What's even more concerning to me is that, to platforms looking for an excuse, your comment could be painted as trying to "incite" violence, and used as a justification to ban you.

The WSB sub is almost certainly going to get banned by Reddit. Given the track record Reddit has of keeling over to public pressure, there is no way they are going to stand up to the SEC.

It would be interesting to know what the difference is between CNBC talking heads VS a community of "traders"?

Jimmy Cramer pumping stocks every evening to his boomer audience which ultimately has some effects (not sure how much though) on stock prices seems fine but a group of people discussing stocks seems like a threat...

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

#259
post #158

Can someone help me understand Robinhood's POV? This just seems so outrageous that there must be some sane rationale that I'm not seeing. Why do Robinhood, Reddit, Discord, etc feel like they have to respond to this? Whether the investments being made are responsible or not, it doesn't seem like it should be their place to intervene. If the hedge funds over-shorted GME and WSB recognized that and traded against that…

From Schawb “It is not uncommon for us to place restrictions on some transactions in certain securities in the interest of helping mitigate risk for our clients,” from Massachusetts secretary of the commonwealth “It is very clear to anyone looking at the numbers that the whole marketplace is being manipulated here,” he said. I imagine Robinhood's thinking is similar

In this case, the "restrictions" seem clearly aimed at retail investors, and intended to help those with short positions.

Re: Robinhood is limiting purchases of stocks: AMC, Blackberry, Nokia, and GameStop

#260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were running a financial brokerage I'd totally do this, too. It's not a matter of "helping my hedge fund broker friends", it's a matter of "how do we keep the SEC off our backs". Remember: Robinhood is already being charged with securities law violation for giving their customers a raw deal on order execution. We usually don't see distributed market manipulation like this, but I wouldn't be surprised if a shitto…

It's not only that - the current price of AMC, GME, etc... are being manipulated artificially. This is text-book illegal activity. There is no logical derivation of GameStop's financial books that would warrant the kind of stock price it has. It is very very clearly market manipulation, and these exact sorts of manipulations are commonly prosecuted.

"This is text-book illegal activity."

Is it? If I have the money to put a short squeeze on someone by myself, with my own money, is that illegal? Isn't that what some people do all the time with smaller numbers?

(honestly asking)

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