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Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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What I really want to know is how the WSB guys learnt that these funds were shorting GME, AAL etc. Can anyone tell me? :)

I'm pretty sure that it is public information, though I'm not sure where to obtain it. Presumably the exchange? The WSB members know when the shorts expire etc, so it's detailed info.

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

#152

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No? The insult is to the person you say "was your mother frequently drunk while pregnant with you", not everyone else who might fit that particular profile. If what you're saying would be true, then calling someone an idiot would be an insult to all the idiots out there. They are clearly not the target of the insult, the person you say it to is the insulted.

That's the point, though. WSB folks aren't insulting whole classes of people either, they're mostly insulting each other, in a playful way.

And more importantly why have we ever allowed it to get so far.

"oh, he hurt my feelings, stop him"

It's fucking moronic for us to have demonised speech like this, we should have held on to the old "sticks and stones" because frankly this Orwellian alternative is bonkers.

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

#153
post #23

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Based on what do you think SEC can order random social media companies to shut down forums?

They will make one phone call to the CEO saying they are opening an investigation that Reddit is facilitating and unlicensed forum for providing investment advice, and that to limit potential liability, the SEC is recommending that Reddit close the sub in question. Reddit's one lawyer will sit with the CEO, and they will have a 4 second conversation "Yeah, we're not sticking our neck out for those self-proclaimed ret…

There is no licensing requirement to run a forum. Any person is free to offer their opinions about stocks.

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

#155
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Yeah this was a low blow from Discord I get they're probably scared as hell, but they don't even take care of the child porn or child grooming Discords. It's not even slightly paranoid to say that somebody gave financial incentive to make this happen, but for them to censor with absolute bullshit reasoning behind it... This is just not good.

Are you saying Discord openly permits groups that share child porn? Or discusss how to find it? I could understand the latter if the discord itself has nothing illegal but that’s still pretty shocking.

I know for a fact that it happens. Certainly they would stop it if they knew about it, but they don’t police this stuff like you might think. They rely on their users to self-report for the most part. [1]

“ On April 23, 2020 at 1:55 p.m., the Marysville Police received a tip that child pornography had been uploaded while using a discord online service.”

There are groups like this all over the place. I know who this person is.

“A discord online service” is Discord.

Also kind of interesting in writing here you can see some local papers are just way out of touch with the tech community.

[1] https://www.unioncountydailydigital.com/articles/child-porno...

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the point, though. WSB folks aren't insulting whole classes of people either, they're mostly insulting each other, in a playful way.

And more importantly why have we ever allowed it to get so far. "oh, he hurt my feelings, stop him" It's fucking moronic for us to have demonised speech like this, we should have held on to the old "sticks and stones" because frankly this Orwellian alternative is bonkers.

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Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

#157
post #143

Isn't the lesson to take away from this that online mega-communities simply doesn't work after they reach a certain size. Humans aren't wired in a way that allows them to gather in that number and be able to communicate with each other well. The only workable solution is software moderation which can never possess the moral agency required to legitimize tough decisions and make ethical calls. Rather than one big comm…

>Rather than one big community, why not a whole tree of sub-communities Isn't this essentially Reddit?

Reddit owns the whole thing and can boot individual communities. I believe they are talking about self owned communities that form a shared meta-community - bottom up, rather than top down, organisation.

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

#159
post #11

> On both Discord and Reddit, wallstreetbets users frequently refer to themselves collectively as “retards” and “autists,” and have been known to deploy the kinds of racial slurs and deliberately offensive language that have become commonplace in 4chan-style posting forums. I read WSB daily for years and cannot recall a single usage of a racial slur. They definitely referred to themselves as autists/retards in a self…

Options expiring this week are still referred to as FDs - even though the subreddit banned the first word (D is delight).

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

#160
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the point, though. WSB folks aren't insulting whole classes of people either, they're mostly insulting each other, in a playful way.

And more importantly why have we ever allowed it to get so far. "oh, he hurt my feelings, stop him" It's fucking moronic for us to have demonised speech like this, we should have held on to the old "sticks and stones" because frankly this Orwellian alternative is bonkers.

>"oh, he hurt my feelings, stop him"

We're long past the point where feelings need to actually be hurt to take action.

Half the time it's "oh, he might hurt someone else's feelings, stop him"

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