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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by OJFord »

chordalkeyboard wrote: post #598
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #273

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There wouldn't be anything wrong with that. There'd be a lot right with it, honestly - I would be trumpeting it as a clear victory of the little guy over snobby funds who don't think anyone else can understand finance. But what's happening right now is almost certainly a pump and dump with a short squeeze as a facade. I've seen a lot of commenters who seem to be grievously misled about the actual mechanics of a short…

> short sellers will be forced to buy all their stock at market price on Friday. Isn’t that what it means when someone is naked short?

Usually you borrow stock to sell short. You're short it because you sold it without owning it (and still have to give it back later).

Naked short is selling without even borrowing it.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by dalmo3 »

h_anna_h wrote: post #649
6nf wrote: post #475

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I don't agree with the way you get your point across but I support your right to get your point across this way.

I do not. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance If you let people use their freedom of speech to be anti-free-speech we will end up with a society that does not have this freedom. This is the logic on why licenses like the GPL were created, restrict some freedoms in order to keep the rest.

Heh, two weeks ago people on HN were citing the the paradox of tolerance to promote anti-free-speech.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh »

atoav wrote: post #629
cheph wrote: post #571

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> immature Get your point across without stomping a category of person.

A category of person? Being immature means you behave immature. Scolding someone for behaviour is very different than scolding them for something they can't change about them selves (e.g. like where they have been born). Usually we also factor in age when calling someone immature. So if someone calls you immature, they mean "immature given your age", so it is certainly different from e.g. hating on all kids, teenager…

Absolutely fire retardent.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by nickthemagicman »

KLexpat wrote: post #569
ohyes wrote: post #519

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Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

the word retard is common parlance in many parts of the world. But lets not be retarded about this, the point is more that they are using a puritan argument about the word retard in a retarded manner in order to shut down discourse, to try and retard the share price of a stock, which has had absolutely retarded performance lately.

Great comment! Great flexing of the different meanings of the word.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by nickthemagicman »

nathias wrote: post #567
technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

yes, soon all the pejoratives that I can use to describe a person believing in language policing will be banned...

The phrase 'language policing' will be offensive. Thoughtcrime!

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Post by Traster »

nindalf wrote: post #603
WA wrote: post #582

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I agree. Small nitpick: retard in WSB context is not entirely an insult. You can swap letters and come up with trader. It’s WSBs special way of saying you belong to it’s retail trader group that does stupid bets.

This is really important context. WSB traders use words that some would consider offensive in an affectionate way. “Degenerate gambling addict” sounds terrible but it’s a compliment there. Criticising people’s language without their context reminds me of Americans getting upset when they hear Spanish speakers say the word “black”.

I don't think it's quite the same though, the Spanish word for black exists in an entirely different culture that isn't shaped by the words use in modern America. Whereas the WSB usage of language is a direct reaction to the context of the word. They aren't saying retard because it came up through some parallel etymology, they're saying it specifically because it's offensive.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_dictionarium

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by nickthemagicman »

bostonsre wrote: post #317
chrisweekly wrote: post #282

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You might have some points to make but you lost me at "All the anti establishment movement is nihilistic in its core." Sweeping generalities like this are anathema to discourse.

Idk, it kind of sounds plausible to me. I don't see the Wallstreet bets sub reddit starting a revolution, protests or suddenly running for office to enact change. Do you?

I don't think Rosa Parks meant to start a revolution either.

She was just reacting to what she perceived as unfair.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by Splatter »

ryanSrich wrote: post #605
lumost wrote: post #469

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I wonder if covid has made people view online communities as the public space. In prior years treating an online community as your sole social outlet wouldn't be viewed as healthy. Now it's almost the defacto.

I remember the days when you could say some truly deplorable shit online and almost no one would care. People who didn’t want to hear it would ignore or block and move on. Now it seems like so many topics and words are completely off limits. It’s very restrictive and I think it’s making the web a less free, a less open, and a less fun space. It’s extremely hard to exist online when you have not only a raging group of…

This is why I think it's so important that the internet begins moving towards decentralization soon.

Much of the censorship and top-down control we're witnessing today will only get worse while there's no bittorrent-like or blockchain-like decentralization.

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