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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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> immature Get your point across without stomping a category of person.

A category of person? Being immature means you behave immature. Scolding someone for behaviour is very different than scolding them for something they can't change about them selves (e.g. like where they have been born). Usually we also factor in age when calling someone immature. So if someone calls you immature, they mean "immature given your age", so it is certainly different from e.g. hating on all kids, teenager…

> Being immature means you behave immature

Immature: Not fully formed or developed; not grown [1]

It depends on what sense you use it in, just like the r-word.

> Scolding someone for behaviour is very different than scolding them for something they can't change about them selves (e.g. like where they have been born).

Literally what the r-word controversy is about. Glad you finally get it. Except of course if you think that someone was being scolded for having mental deficiency or specifically an IQ below 70 or something, which I doubt and which I would agree would be just as uncouth as scolding an immature person (in the sense of not being fully developed or grown) for being immature as they can't change that about themselves.

[1]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/immature#Adjective

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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The puritans among us have been trying to keep the language clean for centuries. Wasn't Huckleberry Finn banned at one point.

Librarians have been fighting the same battle as well.

http://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks...

There's a reason Signal got 40 million people in a week.

Seems like free speech platforms all the way down to the infrastructure level would be great investments to build right now.

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Idiot, stupid, moron, immature -- these terms are all much the same as retard in their origin as a neutral clinical label. These were terms referring to impairments that patients often had through no fault of their own. Why are some of those words still acceptably used negatively in a serious fashion, while others are taboo to be used even affectionately or in a neutral context? Why is your deliberately negative labe…

> Why is your deliberately negative label of "shit-for-brains" any better? It doesn't have as rich a history being used as a slur against people with intellectual disabilities. Also, I was pretty mad. Even if we determine I am a hypocrite that doesn't necessarily make me wrong.

It isn’t that backwards? Retard isn’t a slur against against people with intellectual disabilities, it is a neutral description of people with intellectual disabilities, used to slur your buddy who said something dumb.

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I don't agree with the way you get your point across but I support your right to get your point across this way.

I do not. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance If you let people use their freedom of speech to be anti-free-speech we will end up with a society that does not have this freedom. This is the logic on why licenses like the GPL were created, restrict some freedoms in order to keep the rest.

Since we are linking to wikipedia articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homonym

I read in a circular delivered by the express that sometimes words express different meanings then the mean read of the word.

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> short sellers will be forced to buy all their stock at market price on Friday. Isn’t that what it means when someone is naked short?

I’m not a finance expert, but the hedge funds could have bought GME stocks sometimes between opening their short position and closing it. The short could have been naked when it was made, but there is nothing stopping the hedge fund from buying the underlying security ahead of the short position closing.

Surely if anything they've got 'more naked' - there's more held long, almost conspiratorial borrow disallowing, and >100% short interest.

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I'm going to get downvoted for this for sure, but man it's nice to see a hacker news commentator that actually has a pair.

...they have "a pair" because they use words that as a society we've decided shouldn't be used because they're derogatory to a certain group of people?

When did that happen?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Discord isn't on your side. They're an unprofitable (so far) VC-backed company whose only customer-facing product is a well-designed chat client. They're clearly trying to build a platform for PR- and ad-friendly discourse. Nobody should be surprised when weirdos get the ban.

> ad-friendly discourse

Discord has zero ads, FYI.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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They can host their own matrix server... It's not that hard. Then they won't have to whine about deplatforming. When will they learn? Companies aren't your friends: the bottom line is.

If they wanted to have an anonymous server, they could host it on I2P and provide instructions on how to connect.

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Discord isn't on your side. They're an unprofitable (so far) VC-backed company whose only customer-facing product is a well-designed chat client. They're clearly trying to build a platform for PR- and ad-friendly discourse. Nobody should be surprised when weirdos get the ban.

> ad-friendly discourse Discord has zero ads, FYI.

They still want to keep their reputation good (in the eyes of potential advertisers) if/when they want to add it in the future.
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