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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by Kiro »

asenna wrote: post #520
Itsdijital wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WSB goes private all the time. They do it to "cool the jets" so to speak. They will likely be doing it a lot more in the coming days.

The parent comment is not talking about WSB going private (which you're right, it does happen from time to time by the mods for housekeeping). But they're actually talking about Discord shutting down WSB servers - for those unfamiliar, WSB subreddit also had an official discord server which was quite active.

They are talking about both. Read the post again.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by swebs »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #258
TechBro8615 wrote: post #228

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The fact that 4Chan itself has not been the target of deplatforming efforts is confusing to me. If I were to put my tinfoil hat on for a bit, I might speculate that it’s a honeypot that shares data with the feds.

4chan hosts it's own server: — how could it? Cloudflare did drop 8chan for political pressure. Both also have a very undeserved reputation. I saw news reports on 8chan as if it were something similar to Stormfront . The front page was mostly video game and pornography and one had to search very deep into it's hidden circles to find racial supremacy content.

Which is doubly ironic since, aside from gamergate, 8chan was mostly famous for hosting /leftypol/.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by ohyes »

drak0n1c wrote: post #552
ohyes wrote: post #519

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Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

Idiot, stupid, moron, immature -- these terms are all much the same as retard in their origin as a neutral clinical label. These were terms referring to impairments that patients often had through no fault of their own. Why are some of those words still acceptably used negatively in a serious fashion, while others are taboo to be used even affectionately or in a neutral context? Why is your deliberately negative labe…

> Why is your deliberately negative label of "shit-for-brains" any better?

It doesn't have as rich a history being used as a slur against people with intellectual disabilities.

Also, I was pretty mad. Even if we determine I am a hypocrite that doesn't necessarily make me wrong.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

chordalkeyboard wrote: post #598
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #273

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There wouldn't be anything wrong with that. There'd be a lot right with it, honestly - I would be trumpeting it as a clear victory of the little guy over snobby funds who don't think anyone else can understand finance. But what's happening right now is almost certainly a pump and dump with a short squeeze as a facade. I've seen a lot of commenters who seem to be grievously misled about the actual mechanics of a short…

> short sellers will be forced to buy all their stock at market price on Friday. Isn’t that what it means when someone is naked short?

I’m not a finance expert, but the hedge funds could have bought GME stocks sometimes between opening their short position and closing it.

The short could have been naked when it was made, but there is nothing stopping the hedge fund from buying the underlying security ahead of the short position closing.

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Post by protoman3000 »

Why exactly is it so difficult for some to stop using derogatory, ableist, racist, sexist, antisemitic and otherwise bigot language other than that they want to be exactly that?

We know the power of habits and we know that if you’re a user of the word “retard” in a derogatory sense, your very first thoughts when seeing an actual mentally challenged person won’t be positive.

If you’re not a bigot then stop using bigot language. It’s so easy there is no excuse.

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Post by h_anna_h »

notRobot wrote: post #548
oscribinn wrote: post #498

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I'm going to get downvoted for this for sure, but man it's nice to see a hacker news commentator that actually has a pair.

...they have "a pair" because they use words that as a society we've decided shouldn't be used because they're derogatory to a certain group of people?

Society is not as monolithic as you think it is. "as a society we" for sure have not decided that these words should not be used or that they are derogatory. Maybe this is true for your circle of friends or for the communities that you enage in but it is not true for the wider world.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by echelon »

newswasboring wrote: post #555
technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

> Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. All curse words are in the dictionary. Dictionaries are for looking up meaning, not moral arbiters. What are you on about?

We're slipping into some alternate universe where freedom of speech is being adjusted for our safety.

It's starting with noble causes, like stemming racism and hate speech. But this is one step into a land of control where divergent opinions will be cause for deplatforming.

This is dangerous.

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Post by newswasboring »

WA wrote: post #582
newswasboring wrote: post #555

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> Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. All curse words are in the dictionary. Dictionaries are for looking up meaning, not moral arbiters. What are you on about?

I agree. Small nitpick: retard in WSB context is not entirely an insult. You can swap letters and come up with trader. It’s WSBs special way of saying you belong to it’s retail trader group that does stupid bets.

This is a revelation to me. I lurk on WSB but never picked that up. Can you point to a few examples where someone explicitly used it like that?

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Post by echelon »

non-cotton wrote: post #504
technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Discord isn't on your side. They're an unprofitable (so far) VC-backed company whose only customer-facing product is a well-designed chat client. They're clearly trying to build a platform for PR- and ad-friendly discourse. Nobody should be surprised when weirdos get the ban.

They made $120 million in revenue last year from selling Nitro custom user ids, emoji packs, etc.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by newswasboring »

echelon wrote: post #617
newswasboring wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. All curse words are in the dictionary. Dictionaries are for looking up meaning, not moral arbiters. What are you on about?

We're slipping into some alternate universe where freedom of speech is being adjusted for our safety. It's starting with noble causes, like stemming racism and hate speech. But this is one step into a land of control where divergent opinions will be cause for deplatforming. This is dangerous.

What are you on about mate? This has nothing to do with my point about dictionaries.
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