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Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Post by [deleted] »

melomal wrote: post #78
ng12 wrote: post #11

> On both Discord and Reddit, wallstreetbets users frequently refer to themselves collectively as “retards” and “autists,” and have been known to deploy the kinds of racial slurs and deliberately offensive language that have become commonplace in 4chan-style posting forums. I read WSB daily for years and cannot recall a single usage of a racial slur. They definitely referred to themselves as autists/retards in a self…

Yup, I've been on WSB for some serious time now and sure they call each other autists/retards to no end but nothing racial. F##K cancel culture.

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Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Post by joubert »

dane-pgp wrote: post #20
TeaDrunk wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is precisely what works, unfortunately. Each time you deplatform a group, only a certain percentage of the most dedicated users follow to the next iteration.

> only a certain percentage of the most dedicated users follow to the next iteration. And they become the seed around which the new community crystallizes. As the social media and tech oligarchies get emboldened to attack less extreme groups, the people who find themselves deplatformed end up taking refuge in the only sites that are prepared to stand against the ratcheting up of restrictions on speech. Don't be surpr…

> As the social media and tech oligarchies get emboldened to attack less extreme groups

To what end? Wouldn’t it hurt the bottom line too much? I don’t buy the “they’re out to get us” idea.

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Post by acct776 »

vbsteven wrote: post #70
ALittleLight wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what your point is. There are appropriate and inappropriate ways to use words. Making fun of the neuro-atypicals is inappropriate, joking with likeminded folks in a community built around such is likely appropriate. You've just that word you are complaining about, should you be banned?

Joking among friends using slurs is not appropriate in my eyes. Doesn’t matter if the slur is based on neurodiversity, race, age, gender or something else.

That's your opinion.

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Post by wolverine876 »

Why should I care about them?

They are perpetrating a financial bubble that will harm its participants, the economy (possibly to a significant degree), and that is specifically designed to hurt certain people. They are encouraging a mechanism that could do far more damage in the future. It's an angry, violent mob, and what I see looks very much like other violent, angry mobs I've seen recently, including the portrayal of victimhood in the post, used as a justification for the behavior.

Mobs don't end well for the community and especially for the mob. Those who think 'well, I don't like the target so I'll overlook some things' soon find the mob doesn't stop when and where they hoped it would. Inviting and encouraging riots in your city is not a way to solve problems. Sometimes mobs do end well for people behind the scenes that use and manipulate the mob.

What good are the participants doing society? I think if you step back and take a deep breath, there's no way that this activity is a good idea.

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Post by OneGuy123 »

Nbox9 wrote: post #72

This highlights a need in the market for tools to help moderate a community. Imagine a tool that automatically detects hate speech and either auto-deletes or brings it to a moderator’s attention. Certain communities are being highjacked by extremist, racist, and simply malicious actors. The current method of reading chat and banning users doesn’t scale when sudden growth occurs. If effective moderation can occur at s…

East German commies would be proud to have you.

Nothing says dictatorship better than having a ill-defined concept such as hate-speech combines with the power of the ban hammer.

Please not that if you downvote this comment you will be producing hate speech against me and you WilL bE rePoRteD tO tHE LoCOaL AUtHoRItHIEs!!1

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Post by TeMPOraL »

cycloptic wrote: post #64
cambalache wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." Cardinal Richelieu (Alledgelly) A lesson this generation will have to learn again.

I'm confused, what is the lesson here? That quote seems to get thrown around so often that it can be applied to anytime that anyone gets criticized for anything. The moderator's statement appears to be asking for more help with moderation, not advocating for less moderation or advocating for more hateful behavior to be allowed.

> That quote seems to get thrown around so often that it can be applied to anytime that anyone gets criticized for anything.

That's the point. It serves to show the perils of judging people by what they say, particularly if single offence against some perceived norms becomes a standard for punishment.

And there's another quote from that same period: "like Saturn, the Revolution devours its children" (Jacques Mallet du Pan).

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Post by grey_earthling »

tomcam wrote: post #24

> We're suffering from success and our Discord was the first casualty. You know as well as I do that if you gather 250k people in one spot someone is going to say something that makes you look bad. That room was golden and the people that run it are awesome. We blocked all bad words with a bot, which should be enough, but apparently if someone can say a bad word with weird unicode icelandic characters and someone can…

> you don't get to hang out with your friends anymore

Yeah you do, just not in someone else's space.

Like if you want to bellow out some Klingon opera, you can, but they're gonna throw you out of Tesco.

Is "my house, my rules" really so hard to understand?

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Post by jakeva »

wolverine876 wrote: post #84

Why should I care about them? They are perpetrating a financial bubble that will harm its participants, the economy (possibly to a significant degree), and that is specifically designed to hurt certain people. They are encouraging a mechanism that could do far more damage in the future. It's an angry, violent mob, and what I see looks very much like other violent, angry mobs I've seen recently, including the portraya…

This sounds like an aristocratic response to a revolution. I don’t mean this as dismissive, I mean that clearly there are enough people dissatisfied with the status quo that they are taking measures surprising to those satisfied with the status quo.

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Post by pfortuny »

wolverine876 wrote: post #84

Why should I care about them? They are perpetrating a financial bubble that will harm its participants, the economy (possibly to a significant degree), and that is specifically designed to hurt certain people. They are encouraging a mechanism that could do far more damage in the future. It's an angry, violent mob, and what I see looks very much like other violent, angry mobs I've seen recently, including the portraya…

Not trying to disagree at all. But you are describing the French Revolution, and there are lots of people who think great of it (not me)...

Re: Where do we go from here and who is going to step up to help us?

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Post by mikewarot »

wolverine876 wrote: post #84

Why should I care about them? They are perpetrating a financial bubble that will harm its participants, the economy (possibly to a significant degree), and that is specifically designed to hurt certain people. They are encouraging a mechanism that could do far more damage in the future. It's an angry, violent mob, and what I see looks very much like other violent, angry mobs I've seen recently, including the portraya…

How is pointing out that the Stock Market is broken a bad idea?
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