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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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What sort of asshole joins a community as a tourist, and then reports THEM?! That's for people disrupting a community's conversation...you can just leave.

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The smileys, the manner of speech, this comes off as fedora-wearing levels of embarrassing.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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post #502

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I don’t really get it. Why do we keep telling people that it is support worthy to engage in name calling? Is it alright to let kids call teachers names at school? “This fucking imbecile wants me to do homework! Fuck that shit!” Maybe that’s ok now since Trump made it acceptable but it certainly wasn’t considered to be appropriate for a long time. It’s not free speech, it’s derogatory speech (for either side of those…

Slowly, but surely, more and more words are being chipped away from the definition of free speech. Putting the free speech thing aside, the problem here is that it can and it is being used as a pretext to silence the dissidents and the opposition.

So the opposition of discord is a gang of wallstreet traders? Are you sure about that? To be honest, I don’t see it. If people comply with basic norms of decency they will get back on those platforms. The problem might be that they CAN’T but then it’s a problem of basic education and training rather than opposition.

And I would argue the reverse to your point regarding free speech. More and more words are being used under the banner of free speech. People are trying to justify more things and other people are pushing back trying to uphold formerly established civil norms about how to say or not to say things under free speech. It’s really a plot of irony.

The biggest irony of all is that the perspective on this matter is largely shaped by your political philosophy and whether you profit from these changes. It’s really difficult to make objective judgements on this matter (also for me).

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#533

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Hate speech has been wilfully misconstrued to mean speech you hate.

Censorship always serves those with the power to censor.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#534
post #494

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I don’t really get it. Why do we keep telling people that it is support worthy to engage in name calling? Is it alright to let kids call teachers names at school? “This fucking imbecile wants me to do homework! Fuck that shit!” Maybe that’s ok now since Trump made it acceptable but it certainly wasn’t considered to be appropriate for a long time. It’s not free speech, it’s derogatory speech (for either side of those…

“Take away the right to say ‘fuck’ and you take away the right to say ‘fuck the government.” -- Lenny Bruce I've never really understood the drive to banish profanity or insults. The purpose of language is to communicate ideas and I see no reason why it should be unacceptable for someone to express their disapproval at a situation or individual in the succinct way that profanity provides. If anything profanity is far…

> “Take away the right to say ‘fuck’ and you take away the right to say ‘fuck the government.” -- Lenny Bruce

That's a comedian being funny and cool. The right to say "fuck the government" isn't important. I'd rather keep the de facto right criticize the government substantively, which may de jure exist, but is drowned in the de facto drivel.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#535
Discord and reddit are private companies, and they have no obligation to let you use their services. They can kick you out for any or no reason, with or without any recourse available to you. If you don't like it go make your own reddit and discord.

TLDR: Company does business. Why is this news?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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post #519

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

Is this not the classic problem with all censorship? Of course the majority (and I) would agree that the language used is not productive, but the question of whether something should be allowed, despite its "goodness" (or lack there of), is much more nuanced. I think an argument can be made that the definition of a public forum has changed.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#537

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

discord is filled with 'snowflakes' (apologies if that seems insulting) I'm only a sample of 1 but on IRC I never felt surrounded by trigger happy mods. on discord I got regularly kicked without notice for some not even heated argument. if I extrapolate, this side of the web is becoming a way for people to craft tiny bubbles to fit their own little views on life.

Discord is an app for kids to talk about playing video games. That's like being upset that you got banned for cussing someone out on Club Penguin.

The target audience for Discord is kids, of course they're going to have harsher moderation policies than IRC did back in the day.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#538
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The details: a hedge fund decided to short retail stocks during the pandemic. They overextended with a naked short position against GameStop (that brick and mortar video game retailer) that exceeds not only the share float by a large margin but even the total number of shares in existence. u/DeepFuckingValue on r/wallstreetbets discovered this a month or so ago, took out a $50k position, and let the rest of the sub i…

So basically that dude knew exactly how to make serious money by making it out to be some massive blow to Wall Street?

Both can be true.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#539
post #519

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

> immature shit-for-brains

You can't denounce the common application of an everyday swearword using an every day swearword; indeed one extrapolated into a derogatory phrase.

> unoriginal arguments made poorly.

Indeed.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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post #475

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I don't agree with the way you get your point across but I support your right to get your point across this way.

Sure, but I also support the mods’ right to ban them for getting their point across this way. Deplatforming is itself guaranteed by freedom of speech.

They banned everyone, not just a few users.

Imagine if HN’s host killed all of HN because someone used the “r word” and it wasn’t removed.

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