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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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When you're able to play a video game and have a large amount of users agree to use anything besides Discord, then I'll grant this objection. Until then, I'll refer to it as a monopoly (not over all communication of course, just within its own niche).

Anything is a monopoly if you define the niche narrowly enough.

I think the internet being still in it's infancy essentially has allowed us to not define monopolies narrowly enough. For example, it seems obvious to people when a monopoly exists on a railroad, cars, or planes because they are distinct. However if they were judged the way the technology industry is currently, you would just say they are all travel and so no monopoly exists. I think the technology companies will be in for a very rude awakening when these niches are realized by politicians. It will probably be when young enough to really know the niches in the internet grow old enough to become politicians. The current politicians are just beginning to get a grasp on this so it's going to be some time.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Risk of SEC involvement. This admin is probably nowhere near as lenient on this kind of stuff as the last was, and the recent nonsense with GameStop is probably bad enough to attract negative regulatory attention.

That’s the joke. The SEC pursues the mostly harmless while letting the sharks go free. Did they do anything about naked short selling of Overstock stock? Nope, and now that it’s happened again and retail took advantage of a bad trade, the rules suddenly change “to protect the little guy.” It’s disingenuous at a minimum, and crony capitalism when taken to the maximum. Are they doing anything about Nancy Pelosi (her hu…

Disgusting but not surprising take from the Nasdaq CEO. A few managers with access to billions are able to coordinate their funds because they own them all, but a diverse mob of retail investors couldn't do this up until now because they're all subject to game-theoretic prisoner's dilemma forces.

It's only because so many people are rallying around the ideological worth of the stock that keeps the price from crashing. As the fad dissipates naturally over time, its ideological worth will decline and bring the price down with it. Time is on the side of the hedge funds.

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It’s laughable that discord does this under the guise of “preventing the spread of misinformation” and stopping the glorification of violence. Presumably they’ll ban anyone playing first person shooters next and any games that aren’t historically accurate?

Stupidest fucking catch-all excuse I’ve heard yet. It would save everyone some time if these services just said, “we’ll kick you off if the mood strikes us.”

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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This admin's official response to the GameStop situation was literally "Our Treasury Secretary is a woman!" https://twitter.com/Quicktake/status/1354496816738422789

I for one don't want the administration to have an "official response" to this, so a non-sequitur is positively delightful.

I would tend to agree if the non-sequitur hadn't involved "genitalia", as many commentators have put it.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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post #17

I have no doubt the timing was extremely intentional.

Ironically it probably brought a lot more attention to Discord than they would've had otherwise. I didn't see a single news article mention the Discord group until it was banned. Why would they? It was just a minor subset of the main group. Although... maybe that was the play here? Plenty of fresh eyes checking out and learning about Discord now.

Even Elon Musk is on WSB discord apparently

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/13542078551094108...

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/13546095155645603...

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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post #406

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Ironically it probably brought a lot more attention to Discord than they would've had otherwise. I didn't see a single news article mention the Discord group until it was banned. Why would they? It was just a minor subset of the main group. Although... maybe that was the play here? Plenty of fresh eyes checking out and learning about Discord now.

Even Elon Musk is on WSB discord apparently https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/13542078551094108... https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/13546095155645603...

*was

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Its the last part of #4 that we have to prevent. > but avoiding a complete loss of control We need the complete loss of control. Corporations control entirely too much of American, and really, worldwide, life as it is. We can't give this one to them. Its too important. The ability to freely communicate ideas, even in vulgar, poorly considered ways, is too important and too fundamental to humanity to be allowed to be…

I was once like you, but. Doesn't it seem to you like something is fundamentally worse about politics now than it was 20 years ago? Isn't it true that people are more disconnected now than they have been in the past 50 years and institutions like clubs and political organizations reduced to merely a place to send money. Obviously the causes of this are varied (for one thing social media is way newer than 20 years), b…

I think that is just the normal 'getting older' syndrome. We all just grew up and for some reason life isn't as nice as it was when we were kids and didn't read the news. We now imagine the world has turned dark and evil, but in reality we just all have jobs and the news now matters.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Remember: Parler tried “making their own X”. They were taken offline by a concerted effort at every level, despite the fact that a large portion of the capitol protests were organized on Facebook and YouTube. Anyone who’s ever been an activist for long enough knows that the censorship that silenced your enemies will eventually silence you. Corporate policing of speech needs to stop.

Parler was explicitly unmoderated by choice and hate speech was its selling point. You’ll have a hard time finding a) a service provider willing to tolerate that and b) much public sympathy for the service promoting hate. Yet it called into question freedom of speech. Same thing today with WSB, but the focus is clearly not hate speech (even if Discord says so). I find today’s bans way more objectionable than Parler,…

I don't know how much you visited Parler but it was literally the same as every platform. If you don't like someone, don't follow them and block them.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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The thought crossed my mind too, but if so then why?

I joined and had an extremely negative experience immediately, left, and reported it. This was months ago. Imagine suddenly thousands of people are doing this and now Discord is being flooded with reports. - Something some people might not know as well, there was another WSB Discord started by Jartek that used to be linked on the subreddit That Discord was much more tame even with minimal moderation. No racial or hom…

What sort of asshole joins a community as a tourist, and then reports THEM?!

That's for people disrupting a community's conversation...you can just leave.

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