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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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The thought crossed my mind too, but if so then why?

Risk of SEC involvement. This admin is probably nowhere near as lenient on this kind of stuff as the last was, and the recent nonsense with GameStop is probably bad enough to attract negative regulatory attention.

This admin's official response to the GameStop situation was literally "Our Treasury Secretary is a woman!"

https://twitter.com/Quicktake/status/1354496816738422789

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#362
post #35
post #31

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The thought crossed my mind too, but if so then why?

well the r/wsb subreddit has gone private too. We are experiencing technical difficulties based on unprecedented scale as a result of the newfound interest in WSB. We are unable to ensure Reddit's content policy and the WSB rules are enforceable without a technology platform that can support automation of this enforcement. WSB will be back. This seems like a DDOS attack on r/wsb well knowing that the moderators canno…

Is it r/wsb or r/wallstreebet? The former is private but the later is still public.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Social media is about to take the same trajectory that MP3s once did. Just as we saw the evolution of Napster and IRC trading, the RIAA takedowns, the rise of BitTorrent, and the eventual emergence of streaming services, I believe we will see a similar trajectory with social media and free speech: 1. Technology enables new social phenomena that subvert the status quo. 2. Corporations move to combat these phenomena 3.…

Its the last part of #4 that we have to prevent. > but avoiding a complete loss of control We need the complete loss of control. Corporations control entirely too much of American, and really, worldwide, life as it is. We can't give this one to them. Its too important. The ability to freely communicate ideas, even in vulgar, poorly considered ways, is too important and too fundamental to humanity to be allowed to be…

I was once like you, but. Doesn't it seem to you like something is fundamentally worse about politics now than it was 20 years ago? Isn't it true that people are more disconnected now than they have been in the past 50 years and institutions like clubs and political organizations reduced to merely a place to send money. Obviously the causes of this are varied (for one thing social media is way newer than 20 years), but doesn't it seem likely to you that social media and maybe particularly recommender systems are part of the problem. Society seems like a much more fragile thing than I'd imagined 5 years ago. I'm not ready to throw out all the gatekeepers, they've been part of what kept this boat floating up to now

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#364
post #131

For all the uneasy feelings I get about the triggerhappy banning by these platforms, there's probably a light at end of the tunnel. Boot enough people and the better alternatives might actually flourish with network effects.

Wait you actually think that when people are banned they simply just "go away"? Vanish in to thin air? Problem solved?

No, no one thinks that. What point are you trying to make?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#365

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Apparently a lot of people don't want there to be a place where 4chan-like-behavior can be found on the Internet.

I'm sure there's plenty of technically minded Wall Street bets people who are capable of setting up synapse, for a self-hosted, non federated matrix/element based chat solution.

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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#366

>Discord says it did not ban the server for financial fraud — rather, it was banned because it continued to allow “hateful and discriminatory content after repeated warnings.” Funny how that works. If they're not careful, people might start to think 'Hate Speech' could be misused to pursue an agenda. 'It's not that I disagree with what they are doing, they should have just called each other assholes instead of the X…

First they came for the Trumpists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trumpist.

Then they came for the British socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a British socialist.

Then they came for some Redditors, and I did not speak out— Because I was not like those Redditors.

(Obviously will be continued - this has progressed faster than expected, but it's not surprising at all. See earlier comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25880239)

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#367

I think it is complete crap that companies using legal platform protections can ban people by arbitrarily declaring speech they don't like as hate speech. There should be legal requirements that any companies which enjoy platform protections must prove in a court of law that speech can accurately be classified as hateful before banning anyone.

They didn't even ban the people. They literally banned the server because individuals used inappropriate language on the server. That makes absolutely no sense.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#368

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You might have some points to make but you lost me at "All the anti establishment movement is nihilistic in its core." Sweeping generalities like this are anathema to discourse.

Or they're a starting point. You could respond with agreement or disagreement and an argument.

The larger point I was making with my comment -- which seems to have been insufficiently clear -- was precisely that making extreme statements to trigger deliberately contentious argument is a style of interaction I prefer to avoid. Per the HN rules of conduct, I assumed good faith and interpreted the parent in the most favorable light I could, given it bordered on trolling. What is there to argue? The idea that there's a simple binary split between The Establishment and Nihilists?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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So WSB's Discord guild gets banned for racism right as this entire fiasco is going on, yet the r/conservative Discord guild has had direct racism in it involving hundreds of users and moderator participation and that server is not touched. Makes sense.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#370
post #46

For those of us not in the know, what is so special about today regarding WSB? I know there's a feud with short sellers going on, but I haven't been following the details.

Someone went from 50k to 50M by igniting a short squeeze. All eyes were on the WSB subreddit, and discord server. Now both are private or offline. No one has any chance to coordinate now. Discord’s action is effectively market manipulation in a literal sense, because this is certainly going to affect the market. I’m curious why the sub went private though. EDIT: I regret my phrasing. I didn’t mean this was illegal ma…

Add this to the mix. The major brokerage firms go down. When users are able to login they receive messages they can no longer make call options on GME and are only allowed to sell.
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