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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by dmatech »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #103
ve55 wrote: post #14

And they chose today as the best possible time to enact this ban? Really? I really think they should have put more thought into the timing of this decision; a lot of users are going to be upset and will suddenly start to realize that a single company has a monopoly on their online social life (this may seem like an exaggeration, but it feels quite true to me colloquially, especially if you're a younger US male and/or…

Discord, a monopoly?

You could self-host your own Mattermost installation with OAuth2 for convenience.

https://docs.mattermost.com/deployment/sso-google.html

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by chrisweekly »

mrtksn wrote: post #133
ve55 wrote: post #14

And they chose today as the best possible time to enact this ban? Really? I really think they should have put more thought into the timing of this decision; a lot of users are going to be upset and will suddenly start to realize that a single company has a monopoly on their online social life (this may seem like an exaggeration, but it feels quite true to me colloquially, especially if you're a younger US male and/or…

See, the problem is that people are doing all this because they believe that it doesn’t matter. These are not idealists or indoctrinated revolutionaries. No one is going to do anything if it’s not going to bring lulz or cash quickly because nothing matters anyway. All the anti establishment movement is nihilistic in its core. These are not Eastern European kids who dream to finish school and go to Western Europe and…

You might have some points to make but you lost me at "All the anti establishment movement is nihilistic in its core."

Sweeping generalities like this are anathema to discourse.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by [deleted] »

joseph_grobbles wrote: post #279
toomuchtodo wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s the joke. The SEC pursues the mostly harmless while letting the sharks go free. Did they do anything about naked short selling of Overstock stock? Nope, and now that it’s happened again and retail took advantage of a bad trade, the rules suddenly change “to protect the little guy.” It’s disingenuous at a minimum, and crony capitalism when taken to the maximum. Are they doing anything about Nancy Pelosi (her hu…

"Pump and dump schemes absolutely should not be supported. Piling into a short squeeze is not a pump and dump scheme." LOL. Give me a break. This is ___100%___ a P&D scam. They can squeeze shorts because they target trash stocks of failing businesses (you know -- the stocks that get shorted), then create a positively ridiculous story about a value proposition. A bunch of moron retail investors on Reddit aren't going…

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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by vorpalhex »

thinkingemote wrote: post #262
TechBro8615 wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that 4Chan itself has not been the target of deplatforming efforts is confusing to me. If I were to put my tinfoil hat on for a bit, I might speculate that it’s a honeypot that shares data with the feds.

Oh it's not a secret, 4chan is and has been for decades actually proactive (or at least no supoena needed) with sharing data with LEO and has strong (albeit US free speech levels of) moderation across all of the site. If a UK citizen were to post as offensively as a US citizen they would and have been arrested. The site doesn't give protection. I steer clear of it, but wonder if with more EU like moderation a better…

The advice has always been and continues to be to use services such as Tor (and a properly secured computing environment) to access the less mainstream areas of the internet.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by disgrunt »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #197
disgrunt wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are certainly right for many participating in this short squeeze. But collectively this short squeeze is undeniable proof that what's good for the goose is not good for the gander. The hedge funds play by a separate set of rules from the rest of us.

Does it prove that? I tend to agree that it's true, but I don't see what it has to do with the current situation. If anything, I expect most people to argue the opposite - when the price drops again, and some retail traders lose their shirts, there will inevitably be a flood of thinkpieces about how cruel the financial system is for permitting them to lose money on the same terms as a hedge fund.

Surely the retail traders will be able to convince the brokerages to set trading limits when they start to lose their shirts. [0]

[0]: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/unprecedented-move-td-amer...

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by rurounijones »

johncessna wrote: post #127

>Discord says it did not ban the server for financial fraud — rather, it was banned because it continued to allow “hateful and discriminatory content after repeated warnings.” Funny how that works. If they're not careful, people might start to think 'Hate Speech' could be misused to pursue an agenda. 'It's not that I disagree with what they are doing, they should have just called each other assholes instead of the X…

Based on the Reddit post someone got around auto-modding bots by using UTF-8 icelandic characters that look the same as the english ones to say naughty things to report the Discord.

Given that it has 250,000 users i imagine individual posts would be easy to miss manually.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by didip »

johncessna wrote: post #127

>Discord says it did not ban the server for financial fraud — rather, it was banned because it continued to allow “hateful and discriminatory content after repeated warnings.” Funny how that works. If they're not careful, people might start to think 'Hate Speech' could be misused to pursue an agenda. 'It's not that I disagree with what they are doing, they should have just called each other assholes instead of the X…

Derogatory remarks will be the downfall of WSB just like tax evasion was the downfall of Al Capone.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by cbozeman »

thinkingemote wrote: post #262
TechBro8615 wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that 4Chan itself has not been the target of deplatforming efforts is confusing to me. If I were to put my tinfoil hat on for a bit, I might speculate that it’s a honeypot that shares data with the feds.

Oh it's not a secret, 4chan is and has been for decades actually proactive (or at least no supoena needed) with sharing data with LEO and has strong (albeit US free speech levels of) moderation across all of the site. If a UK citizen were to post as offensively as a US citizen they would and have been arrested. The site doesn't give protection. I steer clear of it, but wonder if with more EU like moderation a better…

> but wonder if with more EU like moderation a better site could be formed.

> If a UK citizen were to post as offensively as a US citizen they would and have been arrested.

The idea of posting something and being arrested disgusts me. The bar around the world for such an action should be just as high as it is in America. If I post that I'm going to come and kill you, thinkingemote, at 10:17 a.m. at your place of work located at , then by all means I deserve to be arrested. I've made a credible threat with credible information, verified by the fact I know your name and your workplace address.

However, saying something "mean" to you, or "misgendering" you, or even calling you a racial slur, should never be enough to arrest someone.

It reminds me of one of the few (maybe only...) great lines from Ghostbusters 2: "Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every New Yorker's God-given right!"

So it should be online as well. If you don't like it, you can absent yourself from the platform(s), and in almost every case, if you don't want to do that, you can block the other person.

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