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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by scarmig »

madeofpalk wrote: post #158
scarmig wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think at this point every single unpopular or questionable action made by an institution is going to go with a "it's to prevent hate/discrimination" justification. It's an easy way to get a credulous mob on your side; you can always nutpick random examples; and if someone argues against it they just prove they're one of the racists/whatever.

I mean your comment is based on the assumption that hate speech doesn't happen online. in my experience, places like discord and a bunch of subreddits are sweltering with it. it is not surprising at all that something that blew up as fast as this had trouble moderating hate speech out and became a host for it.

> I mean your comment is based on the assumption that hate speech doesn't happen online.

How so? "Institutions will publicly blame hate speech as an excuse to do things they wanted to do otherwise" in no way requires an assumption that "hate speech doesn't exist on the internet."

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by QuesnayJr »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #118
asddubs wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

probably just an excuse and the real reason is that they want to stay out of trouble. (to state the obvious)

Aren't they opening themselves up to a world of hurt by this ban? I admit I don't understand securities law, but surely interfering with an ongoing stock bonanza like this should raise some authorities' eyebrows, particularly if it turns out someone from Discord side had a stake in the whole thing? I mean, surely they realized that this decision will directly impact the stock price.

If anything the risk goes the other way. If the SEC construes the Discord as being responsible for a pump-and-dump scheme, then it's facing legal attention. Even if it's not a pump-and-dump scheme, there are going to be comments there that can potentially be made to look like one to a judge.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by NationalPark »

skarz wrote: post #131
BelenusMordred wrote: post #16

For all the uneasy feelings I get about the triggerhappy banning by these platforms, there's probably a light at end of the tunnel. Boot enough people and the better alternatives might actually flourish with network effects.

Wait you actually think that when people are banned they simply just "go away"? Vanish in to thin air? Problem solved?

That's pretty much what happened when they studied it, interestingly enough: http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw18-chand-hate.pdf

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by sensanaty »

BoorishBears wrote: post #69
qqn wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thought crossed my mind too, but if so then why?

I joined and had an extremely negative experience immediately, left, and reported it. This was months ago. Imagine suddenly thousands of people are doing this and now Discord is being flooded with reports. - Something some people might not know as well, there was another WSB Discord started by Jartek that used to be linked on the subreddit That Discord was much more tame even with minimal moderation. No racial or hom…

So, by your own admission there was nothing offensive in terms of pornography, homophobia or racism, yet you still found a way to get offended?

Truly amazing the ability of some people to get worked up over bog-standard shitposting.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by tidepod12 »

llampx wrote: post #128
BoorishBears wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I joined and had an extremely negative experience immediately, left, and reported it. This was months ago. Imagine suddenly thousands of people are doing this and now Discord is being flooded with reports. - Something some people might not know as well, there was another WSB Discord started by Jartek that used to be linked on the subreddit That Discord was much more tame even with minimal moderation. No racial or hom…

So no porn, racism or homophobia. What offended you?

Re-read his comment. The Discord that was wiped certainly did have plenty of porn, racism, and homophobia.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by ashtonkem »

qqn wrote: post #31
kgin wrote: post #17

I have no doubt the timing was extremely intentional.

The thought crossed my mind too, but if so then why?

Risk of SEC involvement. This admin is probably nowhere near as lenient on this kind of stuff as the last was, and the recent nonsense with GameStop is probably bad enough to attract negative regulatory attention.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by rvz »

Here come the deplatforming (again). This time /r/wsb is the 'enemy'. Media reports it and causes the paper hands to panic; This is what the large short sellers want.

Are they sure that 'deplatforming works' this time? (The have already assembled on /r/wallstreetbetsnew)

For the tech platforms, the mainstream media, social media, etc they might as well ban every single person off of the internet at this point.

As for GME, just put on your diamond-grade hands for once and hold until Friday's squeeze.

EDIT:

The sub-reddit is back. http://reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by nacho2sweet »

rasz wrote: post #2

>“hateful and discriminatory content after repeated warnings.” banned for posting memes like https://twitter.com/NorthmanTrader/status/135439073542503628...

Discord is gaming community chat room. They would have no users if they are banning for using the word "retard".

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by BoorishBears »

rory wrote: post #125
BoorishBears wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made another comment, people are really letting logic fail them in order to push a narrative. The server was vile. Moderation used racial slurs casually. Suddenly thousands of new people are flooding into the server from WSB on Reddit where the standard is obviously higher than that. What do you think happens to report numbers? They skyrocket with user count! Suddenly all eyes are on a truly vile corner of Discord…

Not sure what the "narrative" you're projecting on me is? The administration literally announced they are monitoring the online stock pumping situation. That's a pretty fair motivation for Discord to drop a stock pumping server.

How does that reconcile with literally hundreds of other servers involving stocks that are still up?

Including literally the WSB discord that used to be linked in the subreddit!

> To be clear, we did not ban this server due to financial fraud related to GameStop or other stocks. Discord welcomes a broad variety of personal finance discussions, from investment clubs and day traders to college students and professional financial advisors. We are monitoring this situation and in the event there are allegations of illegal activities, we will cooperate with authorities as appropriate.

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https://discord.me/server/join/protected/c3fe5f4361

That server was vile. And not because of WSB tongue-in-cheek "retard" "gay-bear" stuff, just actual hateful usage of racial slurs actual, homophobia not just based on using certain words, and more

Your narrative that this is a response to "stock pumping" is completely off base.

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There's proof for my side... Discord said they were banned from getting tons of reports.

There's no proof for a narrative where Discord self-censors over an intentionally vague tweet about social media and stocks.

"We deleted the server to not implicate ourselves in a tool of securities fraud" would have been a pretty damn good reason by itself... no need to lie about that.

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Edit reply:

If enough upset people crying over their banned cesspool downvote you, you can't reply to comments anymore :)

I guess in the face of your lack of even "proof", I'm brazenly suggesting that having an admin saying ni*er hundreds of times will get your server banned.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by economusty »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #54
astine wrote: post #46

For those of us not in the know, what is so special about today regarding WSB? I know there's a feud with short sellers going on, but I haven't been following the details.

Someone went from 50k to 50M by igniting a short squeeze. All eyes were on the WSB subreddit, and discord server. Now both are private or offline. No one has any chance to coordinate now. Discord’s action is effectively market manipulation in a literal sense, because this is certainly going to affect the market. I’m curious why the sub went private though. EDIT: I regret my phrasing. I didn’t mean this was illegal ma…

The next few stocks to focus on we already agreed, GME>BB>NOK. No further coordination necessary.
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