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GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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I am loving every minute of this. The "professionals" gamble on the market all the time, front run, high frequency trade, and relentless tactics to get rich at the expense of the "retail" investors. Now they are upset that apps like Robinhood has provided unprecedented access to the markets. Their exclusive access to insane gambling nonsense is being torn down in real time. If Wall St can gamble and cause a global fi…

> Now they are upset that apps like Robinhood has provided unprecedented access to the markets. Their exclusive access to insane gambling nonsense is being torn down in real time. This is such hilariously clueless nonsense, the fact that it's expressed with such smug confidence and upvoted to the top of the thread is really emblematic of HN's complete ignorance of any topic outside of programming. When retail volume…

Could you elaborate a bit more on why low-fee index funds are sticking it to Wall Street?

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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For pointers to the many other threads on this story, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25933543.

As for this thread, it's got 1000+ comments. If you want to see them all you'll need to click through the More links at the bottom, or like this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25930214&p=2

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25930214&p=3

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25930214&p=4

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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> These points doubtless make me appear to be a complacent shill for the financial industry, talking down to the rubes. For the record, I’m still angry about the way workers were ripped off in Britain more than three decades ago, and about the way the little guy ended up bearing the brunt for the financial implosions of 2000 and 2008. But it looks horribly to me as though the same thing is going to happen again — and…

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Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Can anyone tell me why SEC won't just step in, suspend trading, and force some kind of resolution? Its obvious that the market has been effectively broken by the short sellers. It might just make the redditors more angry and likely to hit other shorted stocks, and possibly cause markets to decline, but its the best applicable solution i see. https://www.sec.gov/oiea/investor-alerts-and-bulletins/ib_tr...

so heads I win, tail you lose?

why would the SEC step in? I think if they step in they need to put in stronger rules from the wall street shamans not inhibit the retail traders.

the stock market is not gonna get in trouble if a bunch a people are buying an overvalued stock. it is gonna get in trouble when you short 140% of the float and b*tch moan for more restrictions when you get called on it

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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If you want an entertaining explanation of what's going on with GameStop's stock, I highly recommend these videos from Louis Rossmann: https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/wallstreetbets-vs-citron-re... https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/why-mainstream-media-s-slan... https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/gamestop-shorts-lose-billio... https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/gamestop-shorts-are-full-of... (That's how I learned about t…

Just SO pumped that library is being used in the real world to host videos!

I tried to watch the first video and it stopped after 13 seconds, insisting the video was complete. Refreshes didn't fix it.

So I just went and watched on Youtube instead. Not sure what the deal was there.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Within the United States, you will have a hard time finding a company with a traditional pension system. Almost all use 401(k) or similar retirement systems. If it is a scam, it is a well-supported scam.

Companies switched to 401ks from pensions precisely because it's a scam. With a traditional pension, the company needs to guarantee the availablity of funds for retirees. With a 401k, each individual employee is required to gamble their life savings on the stock market. The result is that the company doesn't need to give a damn about long-term stability, they can focus on short-term gains for a carousel of owners tha…

Companies don't need to guarantee their persons. They can raid the pension fund, say "sorry!" and go bankrupt.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't almost all companies like this an integral part of almost everyone's pensions? Through your pension you're probably an investor in tens of thousands of companies and funds.

You’re not wrong, but are there pension funds that include revenue made from shorting stocks? Seems like a reckless practice if there are.

Shorts are often (usually) a legit way to reduce risk - if the stock falls, you’re not losing everything. But that’s less entertaining to report about, so you rarely read about this in the non-technical news.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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I am loving every minute of this. The "professionals" gamble on the market all the time, front run, high frequency trade, and relentless tactics to get rich at the expense of the "retail" investors. Now they are upset that apps like Robinhood has provided unprecedented access to the markets. Their exclusive access to insane gambling nonsense is being torn down in real time. If Wall St can gamble and cause a global fi…

This kind of market folly also has an effect on long-term investments, e.g. retirement funds. What is there to love? I hate that unshowered basement-dwellers are coordinating to screw around with the market and potentially my retirement money. Get an honest job, guys.

> Get an honest job, guys.

The gravedigger always has a job, and it's plenty honest. No need to direct misdirect your ire at the killer towards the gravedigger for the existence of the corpse.

Re: GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine

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Okay a serious question: at what point does it make sense for these hedge fund guys to just purchase reddit and shut it down? To be clear: I don't think that would work, but I think we're at the point where stuff like that is going to be tried. These guys are losing BILLIONS of dollars. Billions. Can they spend $1B to prevent the loss of $2B? (Is reddit worth more than $1B?) Other stuff I won't be surprised if we see…

the cat is out of the bag. you can suppress maybe one or two of these squeezes but fundamentally this changes what they are going to try in the future (ie they need to rewrite their playbooks)
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