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Why should anyone ever use a Google API again?

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Re: Why should anyone ever use a Google API again?

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I keep hearing about hypothetical for-profit products and people's weekend hobby projects being affected by this change, but does anyone have any example of an actual business that will be affected by this change? Note that most of these APIs have 3 year deprecation policies and so will continue to be around; only the translate api is going away (and that's in December). I have serious doubts that almost anyone would…

Yes. I hire many translators. We use google translate, and license professional dictionaries to speedup the process. I estimate that Google translate saves us $20k/year. I personally would be willing to pay a lot for continued access to the translate API. (I'll probably just end up using some sort of iframe hackery when the translate API goes away) The actual business is http://www.yabla.com/

Check out http://www.microsofttranslator.com/dev/ - I find the translations aren't always as good with idiomatic phrases, but it does a pretty good job and the API is complete and easy to use.

Re: Why should anyone ever use a Google API again?

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If Microsoft did this with the Windows API ten years ago people would be going absolutely batshit crazy in here and the government probably would have intervened

Not sure I follow. Microsoft discontinues products too. I would imagine that anyone who based a company off supporting and integrating with Frontpage got screwed.

yes but you can take an app from the 80s and still run it on Windows 7 today

Re: Why should anyone ever use a Google API again?

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I never liked app engine. To me it seemed like you have to lock yourself into google as a vendor because your application has to be designed for app engine.

I never liked Linux. You have to lock yourself into Linux APIs because your application has to be designed for Linux. I never liked relational databases. You have to lock yourself into SQL because your application has to be designed for SQL. I never liked python. You have to lock yourself into python because your application has to be designed for python.

Relying on a service hosted by a third party is fundamentally different. Nobody, not even Torvalds or van Rossum, could throw a switch and shut down your Linux boxes or your Python interpreter, so any needed migration to an incompatible system can happen at your convenience.

Re: Why should anyone ever use a Google API again?

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Amazing sense of entitlement in this comment. Google built the apis, they host the apis, they incur costs from this yet provide them for free. Presumably this is because they intend to get some benefit. So its Google's decision if they want to continue to provide them or change the way they work. I use some free apis in my commercial apps but I'm aware that I don't control them nor am I entitled to them. They may cha…

Came here to say this. This guy is complaining because Google is shutting down a service that started to become more of a burden on them to provide than a benefit to the actual developers using it. They're not the goddamned Red Cross, they're a business. A very cool, developer-friendly business, yes, but still.

Re: Why should anyone ever use a Google API again?

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I never liked Linux. You have to lock yourself into Linux APIs because your application has to be designed for Linux. I never liked relational databases. You have to lock yourself into SQL because your application has to be designed for SQL. I never liked python. You have to lock yourself into python because your application has to be designed for python.

Relying on a service hosted by a third party is fundamentally different. Nobody, not even Torvalds or van Rossum, could throw a switch and shut down your Linux boxes or your Python interpreter, so any needed migration to an incompatible system can happen at your convenience.

have you tried migrating to Python 3.0 yet?

Re: Why should anyone ever use a Google API again?

#116

I keep hearing about hypothetical for-profit products and people's weekend hobby projects being affected by this change, but does anyone have any example of an actual business that will be affected by this change? Note that most of these APIs have 3 year deprecation policies and so will continue to be around; only the translate api is going away (and that's in December). I have serious doubts that almost anyone would…

Yes. I hire many translators. We use google translate, and license professional dictionaries to speedup the process. I estimate that Google translate saves us $20k/year. I personally would be willing to pay a lot for continued access to the translate API. (I'll probably just end up using some sort of iframe hackery when the translate API goes away) The actual business is http://www.yabla.com/

Yabla seems very interesting. Care to share more details? How is it doing, who and where from are the largest user groups, how did you end up with the idea, etc.

Re: Why should anyone ever use a Google API again?

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If Microsoft did this with the Windows API ten years ago people would be going absolutely batshit crazy in here and the government probably would have intervened

They did a little shy of ten years ago with VB6. People did indeed go batshit, but the government did not get involved.

Except that they provided a replacement and a migration path.

Re: Why should anyone ever use a Google API again?

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Not sure I follow. Microsoft discontinues products too. I would imagine that anyone who based a company off supporting and integrating with Frontpage got screwed.

yes but you can take an app from the 80s and still run it on Windows 7 today

With DOS emulator. There is no problem to run DOS app from 80s on Linux/MacOS/whatever with dosbox. By the way, dosbox is far better for some apps than DOS emulator from Windows XP/Vista/7.

Re: Why should anyone ever use a Google API again?

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post #115

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Relying on a service hosted by a third party is fundamentally different. Nobody, not even Torvalds or van Rossum, could throw a switch and shut down your Linux boxes or your Python interpreter, so any needed migration to an incompatible system can happen at your convenience.

have you tried migrating to Python 3.0 yet?

Irrelevant to the grandparent's point because your Python 2.x interpreter isn't going to stop working at the whim of an outside party.
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