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Heavy social media use associated with lower mental health in adolescents

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Re: Heavy social media use associated with lower mental health in adolescents

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Don't mean to sound deep and profound here but I think life in general damages your mental health. Social media just brings it to you in a superficial format. But I do also believe those little notifications can be addictive.

Modern life is indeed terrible. Being depressed sucks. I think there is a missing institution that should exist to protect people from market effects. The raw edge of the market is driving a wedge into people's lives. People need to be protected but they're just a few decisions away from loss. Society doesn't do enough for the losers of the world, it's a winner take all system.

I don't think markets and mental health are quite as intimately related. I think it's more to do with living in an individualistic society where we have less of a social net to fall back on. And I mean 'social' as in a close-knit community, nothing political.

Re: Heavy social media use associated with lower mental health in adolescents

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People should really read the research [1] and not this article as the article doesn't actually capture the scope and real impact of the research.

The executive summary highlights:

* Personal wellbeing drops, on average, as children move from primary into secondary school, and continues to drop as children move through secondary school.

* We find a graded relationship between family income and all three outcomes through adolescence: young people’s mental and emotional health scores are worse the lower down their family is on the income scale

*Engaging in physical activity was found to be more important for boys’ mental and emotional health in early adolescence than girls’, with a graded relationship between frequency of exercise and scores on all three outcomes for 14-year-old boys; at age 17, we find a graded relationship with frequency of exercise in both girls and boys. Heavy social media use is associated with worse scores on all outcomes in girls age 14 and 17, but only worse well being for boys at age 14.

Etc...

[1]https://epi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/EPI-PT_Young-p...

Re: Heavy social media use associated with lower mental health in adolescents

#54
post #8

Social media damages everyone's mental health it seems. For some reason it seems to bring out the worst in so many people, and people think it's now acceptable to post online the awful thoughts that they would've kept to themselves

> Social media damages everyone's mental health it seems.

Does it? I've been using social media extensively for almost 30 years now (and now building social platforms for nearly a decade), and a lot of the biggest opportunities I've gotten in my life/career have come from social media. Whatever anxiety it can cause on a day-to-day basis, I feel like you more than make back in various benefits over the long term.

Re: Heavy social media use associated with lower mental health in adolescents

#55
post #18

I'm starting to wonder if mass media in general is bad for our mental health, and if we'd be better off unplugging as much as we can from everything - social media, TV, radio, Hacker News, etc. and spending more time with our community. I suppose the problem is, most communities are completely addicted to this stuff, so we're left in a situation where it's hard for most people to unplug for any long period of time wi…

This is my experience. I disconnected from social media, and my social life immediately died. Friends only communicate with each other through Facebook, so I'm really only staying in regular contact with my very closest friends anymore. Most of it I don't miss, because social media has also reduced the quality of communication to the level of gossip, but what I do miss out on is any sort of invitations to social gatherings.

It also eliminates opportunities to make new friends. It's surprisingly difficult to find a knitting group in my area that doesn't organize using Facebook Groups, for example.

It frankly worries me. In the past, we worried about monopolies on things like oil and diamonds. I'm not sure our culture has the tools to cope with a monopoly on participation in society.

Re: Heavy social media use associated with lower mental health in adolescents

#56
post #45

doesn't that headline essentially say "teenagers damage teenagers' mental health"? Don't most teenagers spend most of their time socializing with other teenagers? My pre-internet teenage "social networking" was full of traumatic times. Has that not been the case of teenagers forever? I guess this study is reporting an measurable increase above the "normal" amount? That seems like it would be very hard to measure.

Indeed. I always find it strange when people are shocked by bullying in schools or teenagers being jerks to each other. Didn't everyone witness that? Every single person at my high school could tell you who was bullied.

Re: Heavy social media use associated with lower mental health in adolescents

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post #24

Social media (and the attention economy) are worse for young brains than drugs. If you came up with a substance that caused young people by the millions to become totally addicted, cost them multiple hours per day, pushed them into depression and suicide, and contributed to inactivity, obesity, loss of attention span, and overall ennui, it would be banned almost immediately. Heck, if you proposed a tracking system th…

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Re: Heavy social media use associated with lower mental health in adolescents

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It's not "social" and it's not "media". I see those as online platforms which encourage you to build a curated, time-trackable version of your identity, where hyper-expression and outward individualism is the tool. Eventually, what happens is a clash of values between these shallow identities, which is as social as military conflict can be.

Re: Heavy social media use associated with lower mental health in adolescents

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post #35
post #8

Social media damages everyone's mental health it seems. For some reason it seems to bring out the worst in so many people, and people think it's now acceptable to post online the awful thoughts that they would've kept to themselves

The communities are too big. We're not meant to socialize frequently with people with whom there are rarely repercussions for how we treat them.

I've noticed this living in bigger cities as well, it was bad enough in one certain place I just left.

Kind of estranged my family to do it, but as soon as I was in my new city I had a great girlfriend, and my cost of living was much lower, I was much happier.

The old journey kind of took me on a personal discovery. You shouldn't worry about other people criticizing your choices because they aren't going to really affect them, and even if they are they're adults they can sort something else out.

In this new city I would notice even though technically the population was large, the communities were very tight-knit. If you're rude to the local bartender her dad might have a word with you. Contrast it to the internet, I spoke to a girl who had to stop using dating apps because guys would just lead with calling her nasty and fat. In real life if you do that there can be immediate consequences to that behavior.

Imagine if you will you were at a bar, and the Packers are playing the raiders or something, if you start yelling at random people that raiders fans are disgusting and horrible you can expect to be removed, and banned from returning to that bar. ( Or they might agree with you and buy you a beer who knows).

On twitter, Reddit Facebook whatever that doesn't really exist. You can say ridiculously nasty mean things to everyone and nothing's going to happen to you. I had to stop using social media because I would become distraught over some of the stuff I read, almost all the bigotry I experienced was entirely online.

Everyone has a right to spend their time in their energy the way they choose, but since I don't want to be called slurs I don't use social media. I've posted here a ton but back in 2019 I went completely offline and I had amazing partners, made tons of friends, traveled. I even increased my income by no small amount, I used that time I was spending making the Zuckerbergs of the world rich into improving myself.

but if I've learned one thing in my life, it's that self-improvement is very hard, I'm the only person who can put down the second donut. it's a lot easier to go on Reddit and then complain about how societies out to get you, are to go on Twitter and just spread your own, really just self-hatred to other people hoping to dissipate it. Yet you can't, spreading hate doesn't take it out of you, if anything you're just going to get more hate back and then it builds up like a fuel.

Most angry online folks, if you took away their social media and slowly reintroduced them to community, maybe a nice bowling league or something, within a year they'd be so much happier.

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