I would be proud to get 3-4 hours of "real" work done a day, and I'd be very happy with any employee that did the same. I think most people in jobs that require some degree of problem-solving would agree.
One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
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#72A lot of comments here are to the effect that the things they do when "not working" are actually work of some fashion. For me, I promise you that is not the case. I've always been a lazy motherfucker. I didn't get into automating things with technology because I liked to work, after all. Over the past 10 years I'd say I did honestly work a full work day when I was my most productive, but my median work day was probab…
Yeah, same. When I work at corporate I work maybe 2-3 hours a day. When I work on my personal projects I work more than 8 a day. All that time sitting around procrastinating isn't necessary to do the actual work, it is just a waste of time (not for me, I got paid the same as when I put in effort, but for the world).
Edit: And just to clarify, I always got stellar performance reviews, quick promotions and large salary bumps. Corporate just doesn't demand much from you so it is hard to motivate yourself to do the job when nobody else performs well either. This includes Google etc, at least the teams I worked at there.
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#73I used to say I coded for only 1 month a year. The other 11 I was debugging, documenting, testing, releasing and supporting.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Billing time is the absolute worst thing about types of legal practice you're talking about, and absolutely nobody should adopt anything about that system. Economic pressures eventually force granularity of a tenth of an hour. There are no circumstances under which I would ever willingly return to anxiety over whether a bathroom break might take longer than three minutes.
Lawyers don't live in anxiety of that. They accept that is part of work and find ways to bill for it.
Try billing 2000 hours a year in .1 increments. It’s not so much the bathroom breaks that lead to anxiety, it’s things like: kids’ soccer games, doctor’s appointments, and anniversaries.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
> is this just clickbait It's ideological reinforcement for their target audience. Most managers and business types have no idea what their underlings actually do, but they have a suspicion that they are not the lean-mean-money-makin'-machine they (ideally) should be. So business-oriented publications like this pander to their fears and strengthen their resolve to whip slackers into shape.
It’s very appealing because it tells people that the reason they’re not making more is not due to anything they could personally improve at but rather their employees taking advantage of their trust and generosity.
A managers salary correlates with how many subordinates he has, the more lazy people the better since then he can motivate to expand the team with even more lazy people. It all works as long as the managers superiors don't notice the entire department is lazy, so as long as butts are in seats the manager will be happy since it makes him look good for his managers.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Billing time is the absolute worst thing about types of legal practice you're talking about, and absolutely nobody should adopt anything about that system. Economic pressures eventually force granularity of a tenth of an hour. There are no circumstances under which I would ever willingly return to anxiety over whether a bathroom break might take longer than three minutes.
Lawyers don't live in anxiety of that. They accept that is part of work and find ways to bill for it.
Lawyer job is to argue, they don't live in anxiety over it since they know they can handle any argument that can occur.
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#77A lot of comments here are to the effect that the things they do when "not working" are actually work of some fashion. For me, I promise you that is not the case. I've always been a lazy motherfucker. I didn't get into automating things with technology because I liked to work, after all. Over the past 10 years I'd say I did honestly work a full work day when I was my most productive, but my median work day was probab…
It is not uncommon in the profession that someone working 3 hours can be more productive than another working 8 hours a day especially in slow pace environments.
Occasionally there is an emergency where you work the full 8 hours being the hero, then it is back to slacking off.
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#78I am pretty envious. I have worked 10 for the past 6 years. I am probably an idiot for doing so.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Billing time is the absolute worst thing about types of legal practice you're talking about, and absolutely nobody should adopt anything about that system. Economic pressures eventually force granularity of a tenth of an hour. There are no circumstances under which I would ever willingly return to anxiety over whether a bathroom break might take longer than three minutes.
Lawyers don't live in anxiety of that. They accept that is part of work and find ways to bill for it.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s very appealing because it tells people that the reason they’re not making more is not due to anything they could personally improve at but rather their employees taking advantage of their trust and generosity.
A managers salary correlates with how many subordinates he has, the more lazy people the better since then he can motivate to expand the team with even more lazy people. It all works as long as the managers superiors don't notice the entire department is lazy, so as long as butts are in seats the manager will be happy since it makes him look good for his managers.
Lazy buys into a dysfunctional framing: it’s far more common to have poor or conflicting incentives. If managers are just measuring by how many seats are full, they are rather by definition getting exactly what they asked for.