And isn't that wonderful? "admit" implies they should feel ashamed?
One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
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Re: One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
#42Is it me or the article reads as "Not everyone works what they should, look at these slackers.."? Also I don't know exactly how they measure this, but I have a feeling it might be the time people spend pressing buttons..
It's Blind, so this is to be taken with a massive grain of salt. Even though they have a strict registration policy, there's plenty of trolls there.
Re: One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
#43Including overhead I am well over 12 hours/day but pure coding... Really depends on how many times people disturb me with 'stuff'. I have worked with many freelancers and worked (as tech consultant) in many big and small businesses; a lot of capable tech people, in my experience, vastly understate the time they actually work. When they are in meetings, all day, they feel they didn't work and report hours accordingly.…
> Including overhead I am well over 12 hours/day Are you trying to reduce that unsustainable amount?
I have been doing that for about 30 years so unsustainable I wouldn't say. But yeah, it i would like to work a bit less anyway.
Re: One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
#44This is a bad survey, both for questions of selection (busy people don’t do surveys like this) and the nebulous question of what constitutes real work (my guess: this is telling you who has lots of meeting, Jira, etc. overhead). My real question: is this just clickbait or is this fodder for the kinds of companies which market things like monitoring software to toxic managers? I have memories of working at a consultin…
> is this just clickbait
It's ideological reinforcement for their target audience. Most managers and business types have no idea what their underlings actually do, but they have a suspicion that they are not the lean-mean-money-makin'-machine they (ideally) should be. So business-oriented publications like this pander to their fears and strengthen their resolve to whip slackers into shape.
Re: One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
#45This is a bad survey, both for questions of selection (busy people don’t do surveys like this) and the nebulous question of what constitutes real work (my guess: this is telling you who has lots of meeting, Jira, etc. overhead). My real question: is this just clickbait or is this fodder for the kinds of companies which market things like monitoring software to toxic managers? I have memories of working at a consultin…
This appears absolutely to be clickbait posted for entertainment value.
The actual phrasing of the single question appears to be about "real" or "focussed" work which many people seem to have interpreted as being "not meetings" or "other work I do which I feel is pointless busywork" - certainly how I would interpret it.
Re: One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
#46A lot of comments here are to the effect that the things they do when "not working" are actually work of some fashion.
For me, I promise you that is not the case. I've always been a lazy motherfucker. I didn't get into automating things with technology because I liked to work, after all. Over the past 10 years I'd say I did honestly work a full work day when I was my most productive, but my median work day was probably around 3 hours/day. As in, I spent the rest of it reading books in a terminal so it looked like I was doing work, or something similarly useless to my employer.
My employer never complained, and in fact I earned a reputation for being the guy who can get to the bottom of hard problems, deliver the simplest and quickest solution to an immediate need, or reason out and mitigate for all the ways something could go wrong. I would say I was actually good at my job despite not actually working that much. Thus, I am constantly annoyed that my employer is so insistent on butts-in-seats, to the extent that during a global pandemic I've only been working from home during the time I was contagious with the goddamned plague (all of my department caught it thanks to this policy).
Due to my rapidly failing mental health, I'd say I put in a median 3 hours/week of work right now. Still, very few people seem to have noticed and no one has said anything.
Re: One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
#47If anything, this demonstrates how ludicrous the idea of "working/not working" as a binary concept is.
Especially when you WFH, or at least that's how it's been for me.
I get up pretty early, so I like getting a lot of work done before 9am standup. By then I've usually lost motivation/focus and may work an hour or 2 more. I really get mileage out of the "work always fills the time allotted for it" law.
Half of me can't wait to get back to an office where I'm with others which provides motivation/pressure to work, but the other half does not want to deal with the commute.
Re: One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
In that zoom call I’m not walking along the beach or napping on the couch or cleaning the house or any other activity I prefer to attending a meeting. So I’d say it’s work as well.
By that logic, you could get away with doing and calling it work. You must be "working" a lot ;)
As long as you get paid for it, it's work.
A Zoom call you can basically ignore but have to be around. Still work but not "working".
Re: One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
#49Can we change this clickbait title?
- "working" is not defined clearly so it's possible everybody meant a different thing - "admit" implies some sort of guilt on the developer side.
Re: One-third of tech workers admit to working only 3 to 4 hours a day
#50I am officially working half time. You know what that means :)
Not sure that I do. I think, there is subtext which may not translate across cultural boundaries. The smiley seems to indicate a joke. In my experience, working part-time means getting paid only the proportional amount for the benefit of only having to be present for that part, while at the same time having to deliver the same output as the full-time.
It means that I am only doing 1-2 hours actual work per day. That's all, no deeper meaning behind it.