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Re: An rsync.net account is the swiss army knife of cloud storage

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Post by rakoo »

rsync wrote: post #5
thebankfarter wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for letting us know. I'm a client of yours and I'm happy with the service. Aside: Ever consider making some portion of the storage available for sharing. I often take screenshots/share documents with my teams and use a program that can use SFTP. Great work.

Well, one bedrock design consideration at rsync.net is that there will never be an HTTP server on our systems - the storage is accessible by SSH only.[1] Surely that limits our product fit and reduces our growth BUT what it does for security and attack surface is priceless. However, the idea that you might have a fixed subdirectory in your rsync.net account - with a distinct password and login - is interesting and we…

Indeed not enabling HTTP access on rsync.net servers makes sense, because it opens up such a big can of worms. If users want to they can use something like filestash (https://www.filestash.app/) that gives a drive-like access to storage placel that respect standards, such as SFTP. It's very easy to install on a cheap server and bridge to rsync.net without storing any secrets on that server

Re: An rsync.net account is the swiss army knife of cloud storage

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Post by asadhaider »

rsync wrote: post #2

... if it's not clear, the enabling technology here is the wonderful rclone[1] tool which rsync.net has built into the platform. So, in the same way that you can run 'git' commands over SSH: ssh user@rsync.net "git clone git://github.com/freebsd/freebsd.git freebsd" ... you can now, also, run 'rclone' over SSH: ssh user@rsync.net rclone s3:/some/bucket gdrive:/blah [1] https://rclone.org/

It'd be great to have some more info on the page and examples maybe for people to understand it better as I couldn't figure out how to sync between providers until I saw this comment of yours.

Fantastic product, always seen your posts on HN and signed up a few months ago with a 100GB plan. Been very happy :)

Re: An rsync.net account is the swiss army knife of cloud storage

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Post by rsync »

joeraut wrote: post #7
rsync wrote: post #2

... if it's not clear, the enabling technology here is the wonderful rclone[1] tool which rsync.net has built into the platform. So, in the same way that you can run 'git' commands over SSH: ssh user@rsync.net "git clone git://github.com/freebsd/freebsd.git freebsd" ... you can now, also, run 'rclone' over SSH: ssh user@rsync.net rclone s3:/some/bucket gdrive:/blah [1] https://rclone.org/

Happy rsync.net client here, thanks for the great service; the ability to use rclone for exactly this purpose, without having to worry about ingress/egress charges, is a huge value-add. Edit: Will free-of-charge ingress/egress always be a feature of the service? With more customers using rclone for shifting data to/from/between other services, I'd hypothesize that bandwidth use could be creeping up. Edit 2: A feature…

Yes, there is the potential of an rsync.net account being used as a "seedbox" - as the young people call it.

However, even our discounted pricing is more expensive than the cutthroat seedbox provider pricing that we see out in the world - so I think serious folks will use rsync.net accounts for brokering data like this, but the datahoarder crowd will store their petabytes elsewhere.

Also, we have recently turned up multiple 10gb pipes at he.net which we found to be very affordable in 2021 so, at least for now, we have bandwidth to spare ...

Re: An rsync.net account is the swiss army knife of cloud storage

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Post by ac29 »

centimeter wrote: post #9

Very happy rsync customer here. Their pricing is kind of weird, but after being a customer for a year or so they gave me a big discount that makes it competitive on cost/GB-month terms with cheaper providers, and of course rsync’s infra and redundancy are rock solid.

Are you willing to share the price? rsync.net has quite a bit that appeals to me, but I cant justify 5x the cost of B2 (which I'm generally happy with).

That being said, if there was no 400GB minimum, I'd open an account this week, even at the higher prices.

Re: An rsync.net account is the swiss army knife of cloud storage

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Post by Macha »

ac29 wrote: post #17
centimeter wrote: post #9

Very happy rsync customer here. Their pricing is kind of weird, but after being a customer for a year or so they gave me a big discount that makes it competitive on cost/GB-month terms with cheaper providers, and of course rsync’s infra and redundancy are rock solid.

Are you willing to share the price? rsync.net has quite a bit that appeals to me, but I cant justify 5x the cost of B2 (which I'm generally happy with). That being said, if there was no 400GB minimum, I'd open an account this week, even at the higher prices.

They have "borg accounts" with a lower minimum (100gb) and a lower unit price at the cost of support and "roll your own" (i.e. use your backup tool's) versioning: https://rsync.net/products/attic.html

Re: An rsync.net account is the swiss army knife of cloud storage

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Post by crooksey »

mtmail wrote: post #8

We switched to use the https://www.borgbackup.org/ software, which does deduplication, and rsync.net offers special lower pricing https://rsync.net/products/attic.html Note the "There is NO borg specific technical support or integration engineering. You're here because you're an expert." disclaimer.

So for some reason I am just discovering borg (been an rsync.net customer since 2014), currently all my data is GPG encrypted on the client side, so database dumps, files and server logs. I have a custom script that encrypts all files, then rsyncs them to rsync.net, if I need them, rsync them back to a local machine and decrypt using GPG. A drawn out process that seems quite antiquated, especially seeing as my need to access these backups is maybe once per year. It would seem from initial (quick) reading, borg just basically makes this whole process easier and arguably even more secure?

Re: An rsync.net account is the swiss army knife of cloud storage

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Post by rsync »

crooksey wrote: post #19
mtmail wrote: post #8

We switched to use the https://www.borgbackup.org/ software, which does deduplication, and rsync.net offers special lower pricing https://rsync.net/products/attic.html Note the "There is NO borg specific technical support or integration engineering. You're here because you're an expert." disclaimer.

So for some reason I am just discovering borg (been an rsync.net customer since 2014), currently all my data is GPG encrypted on the client side, so database dumps, files and server logs. I have a custom script that encrypts all files, then rsyncs them to rsync.net, if I need them, rsync them back to a local machine and decrypt using GPG. A drawn out process that seems quite antiquated, especially seeing as my need t…

It certainly makes the process easier, although if you have done what you describe properly, I don't know that it makes it more secure ...
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