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Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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So she installed 2 apps, which has millions of people on it and lets them discuss diverse topics, and you associate her with nazi's? How did the intelligence/reasoning of people fall so low that they are so blinded by their political association?

Do you really think the sort of right-wing that drove P and G is fairly characterized as merely "political association?"

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Was the agent fired for writing something specifically, or simply for signing up for these networks?

The agency statement doesn't mention specific posts, but that doesn't mean they don't exist... Feels like there's /probably/ more here than we're hearing. There's plenty of space to be loudly outraged on the barest shreds of information, though! Meanwhile: There's presumably a lot of very free* speech in the Parler data dump, connected to people's verified accounts, which could easily be finding its way to employers,…

Right now, on /r/opendirectories, there is a dump of videos and pictures from parler that was hacked. Are there racist scumbags on Parler? Yes. Does that justify the disclosure of family pictures, and presumably a lot of NSFW content that is in every social network?

Speech is speech. Think about the limits you want carefully. Especially if it starts with the thought that a particular ideological or ethnic group excercising speech should result in them "getting whats coming to them"

In this case, as the statement made clear - it's not speech that is the problem, it was that she choose to speak at all, that was the problem.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Btw, the agent that was fired, Colleen Oefelein, was also the victim of an attempted kidnap plot by her current husband's ex-mistress in 2007. This story, dubbed, the "Astronaut Love Triangle" because her husband and the ex were astronauts, was all over the news and even made into a movie starring Natalie Portman and Jon Hamm.

https://people.com/crime/astronaut-love-triangle-nine-years-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_in_the_Sky

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> social media platforms don't ultimately get to choose their users Of course they can. They simply ban/allow people until they get the mix of people they want. It happens all the time on Reddit e.g. /r/the_donald, /r/conspiracy.

I think those were subreddits, not users.

Right, so it's a bit more coarse then banning or allowing users, but if you selectively ban or allow topics that certain kinds of users want to talk about (or don't want talked about), you can definitely shape your user base.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Was the agent fired for writing something specifically, or simply for signing up for these networks?

The language follows a pattern I've seen before where complaints were raised about specific content posted on social sites but the employer didn't want to draw additional attention to the detailed subject of the complaints from people who hasn't seen the initial complaints.

Why are you copying and pasting the same comment over and over without providing any evidence pal?

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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According to the article it appears she signed up and actively encouraged others to join as well explicitly for the lack of censorship. "In a November 12 tweet, Oefelein invited followers to join her on the conservative social network, which she described as "a great platform with no censorship." Oefelein suggested earlier this month that she may also use the far-right social networking site Gab." The fired agent als…

Parler, at least, despite initially claiming to not censor anyone/anything, went out of its way to censor/block people in opposed groups.[0] Parler's CEO bragged about blocking trolls, which he identified as those attacking Christians or conservatives.[1] Of course, the most politically-conservative Christians I know are not on Parler nor Gab, but they're also not Trump supporters, which seemed to be the real reason…

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Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Political affiliation is not a protected class. Being "a Christian" (whatever that means...) is a protected class - but where in the Bible did Moses or Jesus command people to use Gab, Parler - or even be "conservative"? You can be fired for being a selfish ass (I'm referring to the donkey hybrid, as befits the biblical narrative) - and that's my interpretation of what happened. What matters now is if the law will al…

An employee can claim that politics, affiliation, etc. was a pretext for firing based on religious beliefs.

Given that this statement is false — "Gab and Parler are religious social networks" — a judge would likely require a pattern of hostility to be shown, or for the firings to coincide with expression of protected religious beliefs that are not also considered hate speech. (If they're considered hate speech, they're no longer protected expression, regardless of whether they're claimed to be religion or not.)
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