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What does the night sky look like on Mars?

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Re: What does the night sky look like on Mars?

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Power lines still look like garbage, IMHO. After having lived some years in Germany where they are almost universally buried (except high voltage long-haul lines), I can't stop seeing them everywhere in the US. So ugly. Every sky and scene just spoiled with rickety old third-world "oh let's just put this here for now" trash. Like a scratch right across my eyeballs.

Not sure where in the USA you are looking. If it's in a seismically active region there could be factors other than cost and aesthetics. Here in Japan power lines are seldom buried for this reason.

I've been everywhere, man.

Re: What does the night sky look like on Mars?

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The star link complaint seems kind of like how people must have been when telegram/power lines went up.

Astronomers, amateur or otherwise, have been complaining about "light pollution" forever. Traditionally, it's about night-time lighting on Earth that isn't shielded from transmitting light upwards. It startled me to find (in a long ago HN thread) that people, presumably nerdy types, are not generally sympathetic to the complaints. I somehow assumed that universal lukewarm quasi-environmental feelings would mean peopl…

> ...but apparently "fuck astronomers" is a popular opinion.

They know what they did.

(Leap seconds.)

Re: What does the night sky look like on Mars?

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Ah, yes, amateur astronomy on Mars. Something we'll not be able to do in my lifetime sadly.

> Ah, yes, amateur astronomy on Mars. Something we'll not be able to do in my lifetime sadly While that is true, think of all the things that are possible in your lifetime, that weren't to the people that came before you. Instant video chat with people on the other side of the globe, the world's information in your pocket, personal transportation that doesn't eat hay, you're not dying from Polio, etc. etc. The list i…

Personally, I think it's far more exciting that I can look up pictures of nonexistent persons as I will, than I would be to go to Mars.

Mars seems rather boring compared to the facilities offered in my neighborhood, not to mention poor connexion to YouTube.

Re: What does the night sky look like on Mars?

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The attack on spacex at the start - the one company that’s actually likely to put sky at night readers on Mars - took me out of it before the 900C hilarity.

Astronomers, both amateur and professional, have a legit issue with starlink. SpaceX are even trying to mitigate the issue - because of astronomers pointing it out. So I can see nothing wrong in a magazine for hobby astronomers taking a jab at starlink.

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Re: What does the night sky look like on Mars?

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I remember Starry Night having the option to see the night sky from different planets. You know, in case you wanted to track the stars with a telescope, on Mars.

I pulled this up in Stellarium, and the only real difference is that you can see Phobos, Deimos, and Earth. It doesn't seem to simulate the atmosphere. I also tried this in Gaia Sky, but I would need to tweak the settings. The faint stars are too bright, and the bright stars aren't bright enough. Any other recommendations for exploring our neighborhood virtually?

Have you tried out Space Engine [0]? It's a lot larger than our local neighborhood, but it uses real data.

> Real celestial objects are also present if you want to visit them, including the planets and moons of our Solar system, thousands of nearby stars with newly discovered exoplanets, and thousands of galaxies that are currently known.

[0]: http://spaceengine.org/

Re: What does the night sky look like on Mars?

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The attack on spacex at the start - the one company that’s actually likely to put sky at night readers on Mars - took me out of it before the 900C hilarity.

Astronomers, both amateur and professional, have a legit issue with starlink. SpaceX are even trying to mitigate the issue - because of astronomers pointing it out. So I can see nothing wrong in a magazine for hobby astronomers taking a jab at starlink.

According to the astronomer I talked to, starlink has a negligible impact on professionals. Some disruption at the beginning, but fairly easy to account for. There is already plenty of man made objects that need to be accounted for like the ISS, any of which could cause an issue but it’s a tiny fraction of data that’s impacted and therefore it can be removed fairly easily.

That said, amateur astronomers doing long exposure shots will likely be impacted.

Re: What does the night sky look like on Mars?

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post #45

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Power lines still look like garbage, IMHO. After having lived some years in Germany where they are almost universally buried (except high voltage long-haul lines), I can't stop seeing them everywhere in the US. So ugly. Every sky and scene just spoiled with rickety old third-world "oh let's just put this here for now" trash. Like a scratch right across my eyeballs.

Not sure where in the USA you are looking. If it's in a seismically active region there could be factors other than cost and aesthetics. Here in Japan power lines are seldom buried for this reason.

Although there are some areas where power (and comms) cables are buried, it is overwhelmingly common in the US for them to be pole-mounted.
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