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FBI agents track cell phones that pinged near the Capitol

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Post by JohnBooty »

syshum wrote: post #509
JohnBooty wrote: post #508

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A Corporation is a government created liability shield that does not exist in a "unfettered capitalist" system or rather a true free market. Corporations are part of the government regulatory apparatus system. I'm intrigued. (That's not sarcasm) What's the libertarian alternative? What are examples of situations where removing the liability shields would encourage more beneficial behaviors from corporations? It seems…

Private Enterprise should not be confused with corporations. Especially not modern corporations and all the legal structures that encapsulate them. Libertarian Private enterprise is more like LLC's, and partnerships than Corporations. As to where removing the liability shields would encourage more beneficial behaviors from corporations? You see hints of it all the time, anytime you see a situation where someone comme…

We probably won't ever agree, but that gives me some things to think about or at least a greater understanding. Thank you, I appreciate it a lot.

I do certainly agree that corporations ought to be less of a liability shield for things that would send a citizen to prison!

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

ashtonkem wrote: post #339
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #331

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This is only “clear” if you are completely unqualified to make such assertions but do so anyway to fit some narrative. It’s not hard to discover why some departments have APCs (which are used extremely rarely) and how much they actually spend on them (almost nothing, they’re free). By and large, Police budgets go almost entirely to personnel costs. LAPD spends 94.4% on salaries. That remaining 6.6% covers everything…

I always find it funny how many people seem to think that vehicle maintenance is free. Especially large military vehicles. Even if the vehicle is free, you’re not going to take that to the jiffy lube every 3,000 miles. And as far as the LAPD budget goes, I have two words in response: overtime fraud. Saying that you spend 90+% of your budget on salary is not equivalent to saying that it’s well spent, especially since…

This isn’t a counterargument that you want to use. These don’t have 3,000 mile service intervals (nor does any fleet vehicle besides perhaps motorcycles) and oil is extremely inexpensive at this frequency and quantity. They spend more on toilet paper.

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

TuringNYC wrote: post #361
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #316

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Haha, having spent time above and below 49, I would say you couldn’t be more wrong with that perception. In any American city, especially big liberal ones (which is most of them) you can forget about societal norms. There are weird and crazy people everywhere. Nothing is “weird” to anybody who has spent any amount of time in them. Everyone walks right past a circus on their way to work. Cops pay no attention. Ask a N…

Have you considered that your viewpoint might be so wildly opposing to other opinions because you’re part of an “accepted group” that gets their way...while others like me [an individual of color] get the brunt of enforcement — with or without cause? Heck, I’ve been stopped in NYC for “walking with a limp” (bike accident, fractured knee)...while wearing a $500 shirt and designer suit. What you refer to as “cherry pic…

Do you not understand the problem with extrapolating trends from cherry picked anecdotes? And no, those videos are absolutely not evidence of problems. They aren’t even evidence of isolated cases of racism. But it wouldn’t change the situation if they were.

More importantly, parent wasn’t even commenting about race.

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #329
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #311

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This is just wrong on so many levels. You even included the widely debunked (even by her own colleagues!) Nikole Hannah-Jones 1619 project lies. Cops do not care if you are “weird”. Police do in fact exist to enforce the law. It really is that simple.

That's a nice fantasy. They're supposed to enforce broken laws. It isn't unusual for them to abuse their power with mental gymnastics to violate the civil rights of law abiding citizens. I've had two illegal stops in the past year because in one I took a swig from a soda bottle going by a speed trap and the cop wanted to see if it was alcohol. The other, a cop in an unmarked car tried to run me out of my lane to foll…

What does any of that have to do with the true fact that cops exist to enforce the law? I don’t think anyone made the claim that no cops are abusive.

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Post by dhosek »

enriquto wrote: post #286
dhosek wrote: post #191

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The question is what the non-crime use case is. I can't think of such a thing. In any event, having your phone in an uber with a bunch of other phones and not following "normal" uber ride patterns would be yet another detectable pattern.

> The question is what the non-crime use case is. To protect against a tyrannical government.

In the case of a tyrannical government, it would be easy to detect use of this service and the tyrannical government would have an easy way of identifying "enemies of the state."

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Post by op00to »

caseysoftware wrote: post #56
op00to wrote: post #34

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Luckily, you're not a police investigator, because you can't be more wrong. All manner of weapons were confiscated - guns, ammo, explosives, crossbows, brass knuckles, etc. These were people who came to kill. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a35214244/cap...

Read your article. None of those things were found inside the Capitol. If they didn't go into the Capitol, we're clearly talking about different groups. The unasked questions are: Why not? What were they there to do? I did work in law enforcement in DC. One of the first things you learn is how to separate facts from conjecture from imagination. Mixing up the three isn't helpful to anyone and often taints you as an in…

What was the gallows for outside?
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