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Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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post #10

Shouldn't it be "advertisers are targeting rightwing Facebook users with..."? I was under the impression that it was the advertiser who chooses the target audience.

The biggest myth out there is that FB is somehow detached from the ads they permit on their website because of "it's the algorithm" or "we're just a platform".

It's obviously complete BS.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the smartest people of my generation have dedicated their lives to building super-computers to point at peoples' brains and make them want to buy things. I suppose it's marginally better than fractionally growing somebody else's pile of money.

If by "buying things" that includes buying into pervasive detachment from reality (ie, Q related posts) then maybe it's even worse.

If the detachment from reality drives engagement and leaves people in a susceptible state to advertisement, more the better.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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Why does facebook do this rather than let third party advertisers advertise? I thought they got most of their money from third party advertisers, not selling their own products.

Note - gun sales are very strong in the US. Antifa / BLM / Armed protestors.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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I am a far leftist who runs a 500+ liked antifa page. I also only see the body armor ads.

Pretty much this. I highly suspect this is just a matter of advertising chasing ROI.

Firearms, ammunition (if you can even find it), plate carriers, plates, optics, NVGs, holsters - all of it is selling for at least 200% what it was one year ago right now. Everyone running ad campaigns is seeing ROI > 3 and dramatically increasing spend.

Once bids rise to the point that ROI is normalized, we'll see less of this.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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I am a far leftist who runs a 500+ liked antifa page. I also only see the body armor ads.

So basically Facebook is like, you and you, fight! Also buy our weapons.

probably what's more likely is that with a democrat president, gun companies are pouring money into ads to really juice up already high sales.

(generally speaking, people rush to buy guns whenever the specter of gun control comes up, because they think that'll be the last chance they get.)

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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I am a far leftist who runs a 500+ liked antifa page. I also only see the body armor ads.

So basically Facebook is like, you and you, fight! Also buy our weapons.

A balance-of-power strategy's effectiveness is not limited to foreign populations.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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post #15

Yep, here's one for an AR-15 chamber lock that I got a couple weeks ago: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=364409318216958 I was shocked. What's suburban dad doing getting out of his SUV in a mall parking lot with an AR-15??? Full disclosure: I'm not on the right wing or even remotely close.

What makes you think the guy in the ad is a "suburban dad"?

These companies sell to police, private security companies, military, and yes civilians. That segment of the ad looks like its targeted to more of a private security/police application.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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post #23

Why does facebook do this rather than let third party advertisers advertise? I thought they got most of their money from third party advertisers, not selling their own products. Note - gun sales are very strong in the US. Antifa / BLM / Armed protestors.

>Why does facebook do this rather than let third party advertisers advertise?

I think that's exactly what FB is doing, to be honest. They are simply letting third party advertisers advertise.

Historically, dem president in power has always been an indicator of increased spending on guns (because hardcore gun people become afraid that the dems will make guns more difficult to purchase, so they stock up). And increase in gun sales means increased budget (including ad budget) for gun-related businesses. Higher ad budget for gun-related businesses means more ads for gun-related businesses popping up on everyone's feed, as they keep outbidding other ads.

Combine that with the fact that a lot more people in your social network graph became more interested in guns for various reasons over the past year (protests on both sides, covid, dem president, etc.), and you have just massively increased the probability of seeing an ad for a gun-related business.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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I'm not completely sure this is just political people. Up until recently I only got ads for kickstarter doodads and airtable, but then it suddenly switched to gun stuff. I don't browse any firearm or political communities, haven't bought stuff, don't watch firearm youtube videos, haven't even been window shopping. There were 5 million new gun owners last year. I think the ad networks just view it as a highly probable…

When I was working in the machine shop business around 2016 another shop owner called our shop asking if we had any work to sub out. I was surprised because his shop was running at max capacity the year before, making gun parts. Apparently when a republican becomes president the gun parts market dries up; when a democrat wins, the market booms. I think the arms retailers are having a boom right now and have plenty of…

It makes sense. When the sky is clear I don't need to worry about rain. When it's cloudy I do. Only 1 is a danger therefore people prepare.

Re: Facebook is bombarding rightwing users with combat gear ads. See for yourself

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People at HN proclaiming all FAANG companies are equally bad, here’s another feather to the hat. All of them are bad but if u remove the problems at those companies, their core business model can still survive except Facebook. It’s business, at its heart is creating polarization and alternative realities.
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