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“The Big Shift”: Internal Facebook Memo Tells Employees to Do Better on Privacy

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Re: “The Big Shift”: Internal Facebook Memo Tells Employees to Do Better on Privacy

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Post by kantrowitz »

na85 wrote: post #48
kantrowitz wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I wrote the story. It was not leaked by PR. Did they anticipate it might go out? Perhaps. But consider: Boz wrote it a month ago. If they wanted this out in public, they did a poor job getting it out. This was an internal memo meant for an internal audience to address an internal problem.

Who leaked it to you, then? > This was an internal memo meant for an internal audience to address an internal problem. Do you actually think this can address "the problem" or is it performance?

I don't reveal sources. This is another step trying to put Facebook on a path where it's compliant with the FTC settlement.

Re: “The Big Shift”: Internal Facebook Memo Tells Employees to Do Better on Privacy

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Post by [deleted] »

kantrowitz wrote: post #51
na85 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who leaked it to you, then? > This was an internal memo meant for an internal audience to address an internal problem. Do you actually think this can address "the problem" or is it performance?

I don't reveal sources. This is another step trying to put Facebook on a path where it's compliant with the FTC settlement.

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Re: “The Big Shift”: Internal Facebook Memo Tells Employees to Do Better on Privacy

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Post by dang »

annadane wrote: post #35
Lammy wrote: post #27

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> or the author is totally full of shit Bosworth's job is to come up with new flavors of Kool-Aid no matter what position he's officially in.

12 minute post and already downvoted to hell. Hello, fb employees.

This comment breaks the site guidelines egregiously. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here? We're trying for something a bit different than internet median here, and cheap accusations of manipulation are even a notch or two below that.

I downvoted the post because it was a snarky one-liner, which is also bad for HN. I'm not a fb employee and I don't care about fb, but I do care about HN.

Re: “The Big Shift”: Internal Facebook Memo Tells Employees to Do Better on Privacy

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Post by duxup »

throwaway3699 wrote: post #46
duxup wrote: post #17

Why would "employees" need to be told this? Are we to believe random employees just happen to create these non pirvacy products and the VP(s) at Facebook have nothing to do with it?

It is definitely everyone involved, and having this memo out there means engineers can point towards it when working on a feature that could reduce privacy and try and shift direction slightly.

Does that really do anything?

If your boss or your VP tells you to do something ... point to a memo from some other VP guy?

If that's a solution it sounds like the problem is the managment, not the employees. Asking them to fight it out seems like bad advice / not likely to work.

Re: “The Big Shift”: Internal Facebook Memo Tells Employees to Do Better on Privacy

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Post by annadane »

dang wrote: post #53
annadane wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

12 minute post and already downvoted to hell. Hello, fb employees.

This comment breaks the site guidelines egregiously. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here? We're trying for something a bit different than internet median here, and cheap accusations of manipulation are even a notch or two below that. I downvoted the post because it was a snarky one-liner, which is also bad for HN. I'm not a fb employee and I…

Fair enough. Apologies.

Re: “The Big Shift”: Internal Facebook Memo Tells Employees to Do Better on Privacy

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Post by dang »

annadane wrote: post #55
dang wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment breaks the site guidelines egregiously. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here? We're trying for something a bit different than internet median here, and cheap accusations of manipulation are even a notch or two below that. I downvoted the post because it was a snarky one-liner, which is also bad for HN. I'm not a fb employee and I…

Fair enough. Apologies.

Appreciated!

Re: “The Big Shift”: Internal Facebook Memo Tells Employees to Do Better on Privacy

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Post by Lammy »

dang wrote: post #53
annadane wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

12 minute post and already downvoted to hell. Hello, fb employees.

This comment breaks the site guidelines egregiously. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here? We're trying for something a bit different than internet median here, and cheap accusations of manipulation are even a notch or two below that. I downvoted the post because it was a snarky one-liner, which is also bad for HN. I'm not a fb employee and I…

Sorry for the snark :)

Re: “The Big Shift”: Internal Facebook Memo Tells Employees to Do Better on Privacy

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Post by jancsika »

est31 wrote: post #50
peterdemic wrote: post #32

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You may have missed the invisible tag on the post above.

Yeah now that you say it I see it too.

Hee hee.

I wish I could put "sarcasm" label in a tooltip or something. It would still annoy people to have to mouse over to reveal the tip (I still win) but my intent would at least be explicit (everyone else wins).

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