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Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by bialpio »

neltnerb wrote: post #390
culopatin wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m in the age group you mention and although I’ve only used a fax twice, I can totally understand the analogy.

Easy enough to just use "text messages" since it was not very long ago that you had to pay to receive them but had no ability to block them without disabling them entirely. At least for those of us that were late adopters of text messages.

This also depends on where you're from - I had a cell phone for the past ~20years and only learned that you pay for receiving texts in the US when I first visited, ~9 years ago.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by tomjen3 »

ryandrake wrote: post #348
14 wrote: post #341

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Checks still in use in Canada as well. I had a person today tell me they had 3 checks stolen and cashed and my response was “people still use checks?”.

The demise of checks is greatly exaggerated. I've written about 70 or so checks in the last 5 years. Mostly: Property taxes, home improvement contractors, dues for various clubs and social groups, kids activities, and some mail-in retailers who simply don't take credit card. That's leaving out the "automatic bill pay" function of my bank's web site, which, for most payees, at the end of the day results in physical pa…

I have only ever paid once with a check here in Denmark. I won't ever do it again, because no bank that I know of will issue a paper check.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by Caligatio »

eslaught wrote: post #255

Is this the same as the old privacy.firstparty.isolate setting in about:config? If not what's different?

There still appears to be some confusion but, from what I read, FPI is a superset of this partitioning stuff: https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/issues/930

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by novaRom »

ogre_codes wrote: post #407
upofadown wrote: post #366

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People accept that in the USA. Privacy laws in most countries make the free interchange of such information illegal

Fair point. The Wild West mentality in the US kind of sucks when technology allows even small businesses the ability to screw over large numbers of people.

Even worse: foreign powers get that ability to screw whole country.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by jkochis »

andai wrote: post #189
makecheck wrote: post #89

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Modern ad networks are essentially the “fax machine flyers” of old: someone you don’t know using your resources and your time, denying you use of your own resources temporarily, to send you something you don’t want. Except now it’s like every “normal” fax page includes 15,000 flyers.

Some pages don't let you "Reject All" cookies, you have to uncheck them one by one, and there's literally hundreds of ad networks listed. It's spooky, I tell ya!

I seem to always have this handy snippet in my dev tools history:

document.querySelectorAll('input[type=checkbox]').forEach(el => el.removeAttribute('checked'))

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by huron »

From a purely web browsing experience the first iPad 'should be' powerful enough to browse ANYTHING out there these days. But it can't. The last few models will increasingly have the same issues as the sheer volume of muck and cruft that's included with the advertising gack just continues to explode.

I'm definitely of the opinion that our web browsing devices are marketing tools that we are allowed to use for media consumption.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by ciceryadam »

freeone3000 wrote: post #320
gaius_baltar wrote: post #285

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> My bank still accepts fax documents. All I would have to do is find a fax machine ... On linux you can use [efax]( https://linux.die.net/man/1/efax ) and a modem and... ooops, good luck finding a modem. I did this for real ~10 years ago when a stupid company didn't accept a scanned PDF by email and required a fax of the actual document "because security". The difference is that I had a modem in an old laptop at tha…

GSM yes, but once phones went digital that capability was lost.

One of my previous employees had a Kofax server with 6 ISDN lines for faxing. D in ISDN stands for Digital.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by Synaesthesia »

huron wrote: post #466

From a purely web browsing experience the first iPad 'should be' powerful enough to browse ANYTHING out there these days. But it can't. The last few models will increasingly have the same issues as the sheer volume of muck and cruft that's included with the advertising gack just continues to explode. I'm definitely of the opinion that our web browsing devices are marketing tools that we are allowed to use for media c…

The first iPad sucked a whole bunch. Only 256mb RAM especially hurt. But I hear what you’re saying.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by wdb »

wastholm wrote: post #384
ryandrake wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The demise of checks is greatly exaggerated. I've written about 70 or so checks in the last 5 years. Mostly: Property taxes, home improvement contractors, dues for various clubs and social groups, kids activities, and some mail-in retailers who simply don't take credit card. That's leaving out the "automatic bill pay" function of my bank's web site, which, for most payees, at the end of the day results in physical pa…

> The demise of checks is greatly exaggerated. That varies a lot by jurisdiction. I'm 50 and I haven't written a single check in my entire life. (Sweden.)

Yeah, only cashed in checks from US and U.K. Each time I need to find out how to do it! Think three checks in 40years ain’t bad

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by ssss11 »

adrr wrote: post #395
makecheck wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modern ad networks are essentially the “fax machine flyers” of old: someone you don’t know using your resources and your time, denying you use of your own resources temporarily, to send you something you don’t want. Except now it’s like every “normal” fax page includes 15,000 flyers.

If people didn’t want ads it wouldn’t be a multi billion business. Also your analogy is wrong. Your browser won’t execute code unless it requests it. Fax machine spam you don’t have do anything except have it connected to a live telephone connection. It’s more like complaining that your sole of your shoes is being worn out more because grocery stores put the milk in the back forcing you to walk past items you don’t i…

Often something is a multi billion dollar industry that people don’t want!

Perhaps you’re invested in the ad industry. No one else wants ads buddy.

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