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Re: East Coast Internet Outage

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Post by lotsofpulp » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 8:08 PM UTC

hnuser123456 wrote: post #126

luxuryballs wrote: post #98

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FIOS is WAY better, they will fix their broken cable. I get (so far unlimited) 30gb up/down for $40/mo but it typically runs closer to 60 down 70 up. Fiber optic is baller. Though I do feel like they throttle me (web browsing becomes slow) if I am watching a streaming video service or mining crypto without a VPN on, could be an illusion but it always tends to clear up as soon as I activate the VPN.

60-70 gigabits per second for $40/month? Guessing you mean megabits. Not worth being packet inspected. 1gbit on comcast seems to give 42 mbps upload, was 50 a few months ago. ~$80/mo edit: hitting 48-50 mbps again today, sweet

Comcast upload is a farce. They don't bother stating it anywhere, I presume because they modify it as needed to satisfy their needs for providing TV channels or their "burst" download speeds.

Re: East Coast Internet Outage

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Post by hnuser123456 » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 8:09 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #131

hnuser123456 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

60-70 gigabits per second for $40/month? Guessing you mean megabits. Not worth being packet inspected. 1gbit on comcast seems to give 42 mbps upload, was 50 a few months ago. ~$80/mo edit: hitting 48-50 mbps again today, sweet

Comcast upload is a farce. They don't bother stating it anywhere, I presume because they modify it as needed to satisfy their needs for providing TV channels or their "burst" download speeds.

It's usually 10% of your download it seems, apparently until you go past about 250 mbps.

Re: East Coast Internet Outage

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Post by sitzkrieg » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 8:10 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #131

hnuser123456 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

60-70 gigabits per second for $40/month? Guessing you mean megabits. Not worth being packet inspected. 1gbit on comcast seems to give 42 mbps upload, was 50 a few months ago. ~$80/mo edit: hitting 48-50 mbps again today, sweet

Comcast upload is a farce. They don't bother stating it anywhere, I presume because they modify it as needed to satisfy their needs for providing TV channels or their "burst" download speeds.

its 3/5/10/35mbit up, but consistent. 35 is the docsis limit on their gigabit cable offering

Re: East Coast Internet Outage

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Post by arthurcolle » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 8:10 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #125

rayiner wrote: post #123

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I’ve got Comcast 2 gig fiber and Verizon 1 fig fiber to my house, plus 1 gig cable. I live 10 minutes from horse farms in MD. (The horse farms also have fiber.)

I've never seen Comcast offer fiber, except to businesses at astronomical costs. I can't even find it on their website. Do they advertise upload bandwidth for their fiber?

I'm pretty sure I have Comcast fiber, its 1Gbps down and around 750Mbps upload and there's a wire coming out of the wall into the router so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: East Coast Internet Outage

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Post by jzer0cool » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 8:11 PM UTC

When houses are created there are building codes to adhere to. For example, when there is a water pipe behind the walls a plumber (a good one) would also put a plate in front of it. In this way, once the walls are in place, drilling away into the wall, or nailing, would hit the metal plate, thus provides some safety mechanism. As another example, underground, in public areas are markings (or at least procedures) to identify such areas gas pipe areas before excavating.

How are the fiber optics being cut? Are there no procedures for this or is there some challenges how the infra is setup today?

Re: East Coast Internet Outage

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Post by lotsofpulp » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 8:11 PM UTC

sitzkrieg wrote: post #133

lotsofpulp wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comcast upload is a farce. They don't bother stating it anywhere, I presume because they modify it as needed to satisfy their needs for providing TV channels or their "burst" download speeds.

its 3/5/10/35mbit up, but consistent. 35 is the docsis limit on their gigabit cable offering

They never advertise upload bandwidth anywhere, and it varies hugely when I'm at other people's houses that have cable internet. I assumed it's because they might provision 200mbps down / 10mbps up for a neighborhood, and then throttle you down as necessary.

Re: East Coast Internet Outage

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Post by carewornalien » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 8:11 PM UTC

Yes, large carriers can't do much when the backhoe strikes.. it happens.. they'll fix it.. and we'll all go on with our lives..

Re: East Coast Internet Outage

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Post by arthurcolle » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 8:14 PM UTC

trimbo wrote: post #94

arthurcolle wrote: post #85

I was just about to call FiOS to switch from Xfinity because these data caps are absolutely ridiculous. I am sad now. Aside: Comcast, wtf? 1.2 TB limit per month? Seriously if anyone works at Comcast know that I hate your company with an overwhelming passion.

Unlimited data is $30 extra. https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/exp-unlimited-data

Sweet, I actually rent their modem so they said that they can give it to me for like $11 a month, just got it activated today. Thanks for the tip!

Re: East Coast Internet Outage

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Post by korethr » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 8:15 PM UTC

mlyle wrote: post #124

2dollars27cents wrote: post #93

I have no technical understanding of fiber networks. The explanation that this was caused by one fiber line in Brooklyn being severed seems unlikely. Curious to see what the experts think.

So, for clarity, it's never one fiber line being cut. It's a big massive bundle of fiber carrying different circuits for different carriers different places that were run in the same trench and all got cut at once. Then they get to dig it out better and someone gets to get down in the hole and figure out which piece of fiber needs to be spliced to which other one. Because of DWDM, some of those individual fibers may…

And when it's a large bundle cut, it's going to take a bit before service is restored. I have been told that a highly skilled tech can splice a single strand in a matter of minutes. Looking it up, I find figures of an average of 30 minutes per joint for 4-strand bundles, and slowing down from there. So if you have a 144-strand bundle to repair, or multiple 144-strand bundles, it's going to take several hours to effect the repair, and you're probably going to have to rotate through techs to avoid fatigue-induced errors slowing things down even more.

Re: East Coast Internet Outage

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Post by cobookman » Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 8:15 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #125

rayiner wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve got Comcast 2 gig fiber and Verizon 1 fig fiber to my house, plus 1 gig cable. I live 10 minutes from horse farms in MD. (The horse farms also have fiber.)

I've never seen Comcast offer fiber, except to businesses at astronomical costs. I can't even find it on their website. Do they advertise upload bandwidth for their fiber?

They offer a 2Gibps fiber optic plan in certain locations for ~299$/month.

https://todayamerican.medium.com/the-definitive-guide-on-how...