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Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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I run a network ad-block dns (pihole) and consistently 25-33% of all my network traffic is blocked as ads. It's much more than I ever imagined. Now I'm used to a different internet, when I'm using internet off the network it's like WTF is this?

25-33% of requests? Or is this a percentage of bytes? Because I wonder what percentage of bandwidth (in terms of bytes) trackers/banners/ads account for. Need to set up a pi-hole ... just too many other projects....

How would you measure bytes if the requests are blocked?

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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post #152

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There aren't always alternatives - think shopping for certain items, government forms.

Why would a site that hopes you'll send them money in exchange for product, refuse your traffic if you have an ad blocker enabled? That just costs them money. Same for government forms, why would they refuse your traffic if you're blocking ads?

I wonder, too. Yet I still see these issues.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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These advertising networks are destroying web performance. Most of these "Supercookies" are optimizations to improve performance. By abusing them, advertisers have turned what should be a great performance tool into a liability. I know FF suggests this won't significantly affect most websites performance, but web advertising and trackers are already responsible for a huge chunk of performance issues already. Of cours…

I run a network ad-block dns (pihole) and consistently 25-33% of all my network traffic is blocked as ads. It's much more than I ever imagined. Now I'm used to a different internet, when I'm using internet off the network it's like WTF is this?

Mine was that high, until I ditched all the family Android devices. It's now around 2-3%. It's quite an extraordinary difference.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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post #83

These advertising networks are destroying web performance. Most of these "Supercookies" are optimizations to improve performance. By abusing them, advertisers have turned what should be a great performance tool into a liability. I know FF suggests this won't significantly affect most websites performance, but web advertising and trackers are already responsible for a huge chunk of performance issues already. Of cours…

I run a network ad-block dns (pihole) and consistently 25-33% of all my network traffic is blocked as ads. It's much more than I ever imagined. Now I'm used to a different internet, when I'm using internet off the network it's like WTF is this?

I use NextDNS for this, it's brilliant. (I'm not affiliated with them in any way, just a happy customer.)

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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post #83

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I run a network ad-block dns (pihole) and consistently 25-33% of all my network traffic is blocked as ads. It's much more than I ever imagined. Now I'm used to a different internet, when I'm using internet off the network it's like WTF is this?

I run Pi-Hole on my network as well; it's wonderful. I'm terrified that it will stop working soon though, as companies start to use their own DNS servers, which I've heard is happening.

This is pretty much why Google are a huge proponent of DoH.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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We're trying to build an ad network that doesn't track users: https://www.ethicalads.io/ We talked a little bit about how these ads still work, even without tracking you. You might be losing 10-15% of revenue, but if you never had that revenue to start with, you don't miss it: https://www.ethicalads.io/blog/2018/04/ethical-advertising-w... I think the real secret is just to not become dependent on the additive revenu…

Presumably if your adverts don't do tracking, they don't need to slow page loads down the way current advertising does either which should be a big plus. Fundamentally serving an advert should be a light process adding only a tiny amount of overhead to the site.

Yea, we are planning to do a blog post on it, but the total overhead is in the 10's of KB. Just a single JS file, and an image. All open source: https://github.com/readthedocs/ethical-ad-client

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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post #83

These advertising networks are destroying web performance. Most of these "Supercookies" are optimizations to improve performance. By abusing them, advertisers have turned what should be a great performance tool into a liability. I know FF suggests this won't significantly affect most websites performance, but web advertising and trackers are already responsible for a huge chunk of performance issues already. Of cours…

I run a network ad-block dns (pihole) and consistently 25-33% of all my network traffic is blocked as ads. It's much more than I ever imagined. Now I'm used to a different internet, when I'm using internet off the network it's like WTF is this?

Would you mind sharing the blocklists you use? I have gotten to a ratio like that, but I have noticed that it was causing more issues with regular websites for my guests, so I removed many of the custom ones. I'd like to try some others if you have suggestions.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Use uBlock Origin, Multi Account Containers, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes and CookieAutoDelete with Firefox. Make sure you aggressively clear cache, cookies, etc., periodically (with CookieAutoDelete). You’ll probably load the web servers more and also add more traffic on your network, but it will help protect your privacy since most websites don’t care about that. When websites are user hostile, you have to take pr…

Why not use Brave? It has all of this, with Fingerprint protection turned on by default.

Firefox’s Tracking Protection blocklist blocks many known fingerprinting scripts by default.

Firefox also has an active fingerprinting protection mode that spoofs the unique values returned from some JavaScript APIs (such as locale, time zone, screen dimensions, WebGL), but this feature flash is currently buried in about:config because it can break websites. How to enable fingerprinting protection anyway:

https://support.mozilla.org/kb/firefox-protection-against-fi...

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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post #185

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I just stop using sites that gimp themselves when I use an adblocker. There's tons of alternatives for most things.

It is not what GP asked. An no, there isn't "tons of alternatives". In theory there is. But in practice, they can really make your life harder. Some may say that Signal is an alternative for WhatsApp, but if people you communicate with don't want to use anything but WhatsApp, then Signal is useless. I hate Facebook but when I want to plan an event, I found nothing better, simply because that's the platform that reach…

> I hate Facebook but when I want to plan an event…

Ah! That's why I haven't missed Facebook. I am old enough that I don't plan events any longer.

(Or maybe I have no social life. Actually, that's right, I don't. ;-))

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